Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
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Not sure how long this has been a thing but I was surprised to see that you cannot view the content without either agreeing to all or paying to reject.
FYI you should probably be blocking/whitelisting cookies client-side anyways. At the very least, disable third party cookies.
A lot of websites in France have done the same for the past couple of years. Including Allociné, me ex-go-to source of information for movies and movie theatre schedule. Result: I have blocked those websites and I prefer pirating.
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For those unaware, NoScript plugin helps with this.
"News outlet" might be the most generous interpretation I've ever seen.
"Part of Reach"
Refer them to the EU. EU is going after Meta for charging for an ad-free plan. Oh, right. The EU only goes after USA corporations and deliberately wrote their rules to exclude companies like Spotify. Oh wait, there was Brexit, so it doesn't matter anyway. Brits voted themselves right to fucking shit. Kinda like what we might do in a few months.
Vote. The stupid people definitely will, so it's necessary to combat them.
And fuck abstaining on the basis of we only have two bad choices, I want a true leftist candidate. I would too, but by abstaining you are basically taking the bullshit liberal position of "I can't tell the difference between these two things"
uBlock origin, can access the page fine, without showing any promts. I have more or less all filters turned on though (cookie popups, social media trackers etc)
Good to know. Hopefully they don't find a way to negate uBlock
Just don't read The Mirror. Generally not worth the effort of moving your eyes from one word to the next.
Lmao even if you pay, you still see ads, they just won't track you. What an insane monetization scheme
Actually they still track you, they just don't share the information with advertisers. This is hte "pay or ok" model of blackmailing users to accept cookies and tracking. More or less what Facebook did last year, but Facebook charged a price tag that was higher than what Netflix costs! In the EU, this is not what was intended, and is currently being redefined
https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pay-models-should-offer-real-choice_en
Absolutely wild that they're still allowed to call this "consent"
If we imagine the idea of sexual consent being given in the same circumstances, it sounds a lot like a fucking crime.
"Either you consent to having sex with me right now or you pay me a subscription fee in order to not consent. If you do that, I'll still fuck you, but I'll use protection"
I like this analogy; it's provocative and it made me think about the issue for longer than I would have otherwise.
However, after some thought, I don't think it aligns perfectly since the user can simply choose not to read the article, so there's an option where they don't get fucked.
In the same vein, I think we could make a better analogy to sexting. You meet someone, seem to hit it off, and when the texts and pictures get a little spicy, they hit you with a, "you can pay me now and I will keep all of this in my private spank-bank, otherwise I'm going to share our entire relationship with a group chat I'm in with 1200+ people"
I think this is a bit stronger because it hits on a few notes where the hook-up analogy falls short: sharing of sensitive information, extortion in exchange for gratification, and the potential for an ongoing relationship.
Idk, what do you think?
Get yourself the Consent-o-Matic browser extension and watch these “we and our 8000 partners (hungrily) value your privacy” banners disappear.
If you stumble upon a web site that Consent-o-Matic does not handle, you can simply click the extension, click “Submit for Review”, and the devs will shortly add support for that site.
But does that auto accept cookies like many of these other anti cookie banner extensions?
You can customize how the extension handles cookie banners. See an example of current settings on most updated extension at time of this comment:
I have this but it's no good for consent-or-pay, unfortunately.
Oof! I definitely can raise an Enhancement request in their GitHub to see if they can take on adding that functionality.
If anyone can get me the exact link of whatever OP experienced, I can log it there.
if you need a consent-or-pay example, just open La Repubblica's homepage. You will be prompted with the "accept all cookies or pay" prompt as soon as you open the site. Pretty standard practice for most Italian online newspapers, sadly
Even UBO doesn't work here. Zapping the element, just pops it back up. Crazy
E: disabling js does seem to allow access to the site and articles, though you can't interact with anything (comments and such).
GDPR, go gettem.
You cannot share customer data with third parties without explicit consent. It has to be clearly labelled and not hidden in T&Cs
That's an EU thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
UK also has GDPR. They left the EU after GDPR was passed and now have "UK GDPR" which is practically the same as the EU
It's still a uk thing. I was the GDPR officer for our company when it was introduced and as far as I know it hasn't been repealed in UK law yet.
Edit: Looking into it further it appears that we now have a UK GDPR law which is essentially the same thing and is in lockstep with the EU version.
Can you manually uncheck all then save it?
Happy cake day :)
They are all unchecked by default but you can't save and exit, it just loops back to the subscribe screen.
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Peak enshittification?
They can always go shittier. Nothing will stop them until the entire human population is strapped into a matrix style ad network, 24/7... paid for by you, renting your neurons as compute for AI to generate more ads and supporting analytics for yourself... until your profitability quotient falls below average and they liquify your corpse to feed a more profitable gen of the attention crop.
If I was a human smoothie would you guys drink me?
Soylent green is people! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLEEEEEEE!!
Like in that Black Mirror episode when it was checking if you're watching the ad and you could only pay to skip it.
"Back to concent"
Fucking animals.
A common thing in continental Europe too. NOYB and some EU lawmakers are trying to make these pay-or-ok schemes illegal, but I guess in the UK you will be out of luck regarding that.
The EU is now fighting such schemes though.
Wouldn't this be blatantly in conflict with the EU cookie law? Like I'm not from Europe but my understanding was that it needs to be equally easy to accept or reject all cookies. Dark patterns aren't allowed