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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All jokes aside I had an AIDungeon saved story that was built around the emails and texts my mom sent before she passed, I used it as a kind of therapy.

I knew I was talking to an AI but it was interesting to see what the engine did with it. Was pretty accurate too. Granted this was before the Dumb Dragon fiasco so you probably couldn't make that quality of output anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I'm completely sympathetic to you here despite the edit. sorry that happened and I'm glad you found some way to help in dealing with it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

edit: to the absolute human shitstain that downvoted this

ugh. don't do that :<

have the balls to reply why.

this isn't highschool, no-one owes you homework

(a bit of advice: instead treat that as a reason to reflect as to why. you might learn something)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow an entire instance of trolls to block, it's not often I get a chance for that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

my condolences.

and, no matter how much this has helped you to cope with your personal trauma, going through that trauma does not entitle you to use emotional blackmail to silence people who do not subscribe to the llm hype.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

nor does said trauma give one permission to be an asshole unto others

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

couldn’t have said it better myself, but for posterity, they of course sent a report:

Reason: Sanctimonious bullshit, unsolicited advice and multi instance harassment

I initially had some sympathy for their position, but the downvote whining and report abuse really has done them no favors. it’s time for them to find a different instance to pollute.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

multi instance harassment

also: wat

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

for me the wat was triggered by “unsolicited advice”; if it was my reply that was reported, i wasn't giving advice, i was setting boundaries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

that was my first wat, this is seconds

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I specifically did not touch on that aspect because, like, yay accidental benefit? but extreme emphasis on the "accidental", and it's not debate club and and and.. but then they had to go throw a tantrum

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can't wait for the profit above care tier hospitals to have their own AI that allows patients in a vegetative state to "freely" tell those same hospitals that they need to remain alive on whatever system is keeping them alive for as long as possible, making sure their family incurs the max amount of debt/bills possible. I'd think most middle aged or older family members would absolutely believe the AI is actually connected to their brain and is telling them it's what they want since they seem to be a lot more gullible about anything AI generated being real, if fakebook is to be believed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that diffusion of responsibility is a thing that already happened with crypto too

no officer, it's not a ponzi because it's a Distributed Future of Finance™, go pound sand, do you hate progress?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I remember seeing some crytpo bro smugly explain that his obviously illegal business model was fine because "It's a DAO, I'm just a community member."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I mean, while this idea is obviously a stupid one, I have seen some suggestion that an AI could be used to help interperet the brain activity of patients that are capable of thought but not communication, and thus help them communicate with doctors, rather than try to figure out what they might have said from prior history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

🦀 THEY DID NEUROIMAGING ON A DEAD SALMON 🦀

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an autistic who struggles with communication and organizing thoughts, LLMs have been helping me process emotions and articulating things. Not perfectly in the way that you'd describe (hence i mostly don't use LLM outputs themselves as replies), but my situation is much better than pre-November 2022

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is a shame LLM's weren't designed to be a common good to Disabled people though. We're just a happy use case accident for these companies and AI manufacturers. It's tricky because this could be done just as well, I figure, with specifically designed LLM's instead of generic ones. @pavnilschanda @CarbonIceDragon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are some efforts for LLM use for disabled people, such as GoblinTools. And you're very right about disabled people benefitting from LLMs being a happy use case accident. With that being the reality, it's frustrating how so many people who blindfully defend AI use disabled people as a shield against ethical concerns. Tech companies themselves like to use us to make themselves look good; see the "disability dongle" concept as a prime example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Yep! Very familiar! I actually wrote about LLM's and blindness, as an example, here. https://robertkingett.com/posts/6593/ @pavnilschanda

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stephen Hawking had a predictive device in his communication machine. So it's well with reason but doesn't need the bullshit AI tag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

this remark demonstrates a stunning lack of any understanding of anything at all of any of the topics involved in this, amazing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

"could" is a word meaning "doesn't"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I do not recommend using the word "AI" as if it refers to a single thing that encompasses all possible systems incorporating AI techniques. LLM guys don't distinguish between things that could actually be built and "throwing an LLM at the problem" -- you're treating their lack-of-differentiation as valid and feeding them hype.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use a term I've seen used before, I'm not familiar enough with the details of the tech to know what what more technical term applies to this kind of device, but not to other types, and especially not what term will be generally recognized as referring to such. The hype guys are going to hype themselves up regardless in any case, seeing as that type tend to exist in an echo chamber as far as I can see.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

maybe with blockchain,

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

"Can AI do [Blank]" is getting pretty old. They will literally fill in that blank with anything they can come up with and it's getting kinda silly.

Here's a list of potential new AI articles I predict coming out within the next year:

  • "Can AI teach us more about the dinosaurs?"
  • "How AI will solve the climate crisis."
  • "New AI technology let's you speak with deceased loved ones with staggering accuracy."
  • "How AI can help you save money."
  • "New AI model lets us translate dead languages."
  • "Soon all your friends will be AI."
  • "AI can help you lose weight."
  • "How we can use AI to find aliens."

I'm sure at least one of these articles already exists. Literally all they are trying to do is make money with half baked ideas or steal your personal data.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)
  • "Can AI teach us more about the dinosaurs?"

done already

  • "How AI will solve the climate crisis."

pretty sure I've seen this

  • "New AI technology let's you speak with deceased loved ones with staggering accuracy."

done

  • "How AI can help you save money."

done

  • "New AI model lets us translate dead languages."

done

  • "Soon all your friends will be AI."

pretty sure japan already has this problem

  • "AI can help you lose weight."

i'd be shocked if not already done

  • "How we can use AI to find aliens."

pretty sure I've seen this

i think these are predictions of last week

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

We already know how to solve the climate crisis. We just don’t want to because it would cost too much, inconvenience us, and really upset the shareholders.

The only reason to ask AI would be like asking the butler to take out the trash, we just can’t be bothered to do even that much work and want to hit the “easy” button.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

The great thing about using AI to search for aliens is that it'll find them, whether there's any out there or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)
“Soon all your friends will be AI.”

pretty sure japan already has this problem

I remember reading not to long ago about people having AI as girlfriends.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the Blade Runner 2024 made to the best of our abilities

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

The blade runner we have at home

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And then the company behind it made the AI girlfriends less horny unless you paid for the premium plan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Sounds about right. And I'm sure at least half of them are just click bait while the others are wishful thinking. Or just sad...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

a fun little rule of thumb that I like to apply is that whenever an article's headline is a question you may safely presume the answer is usually no.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

They literally mentioned this in the article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I propose the Gerard Extension for Betteridge's Law: by appending ', and what the hell is wrong with you?' to Betteridge's output.

As per the headline.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

* The Castor-Gerard Extension

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

worst prog rock band ever

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Based on your record of shitposting, our AI model predicts that your final wish is that your entire estate be left to ... Marc Andreessen? Is that correct? If so, blink as if in surprise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I knew your post would be good when you mentioned Marc Anderson, then you followed up with the blinking thing. Will you run for office?

No joke, no trolling, just good shit mate.