wait they fucking did an uvalde? lmfao
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Secret Service and local PD absolutely deserve to get reemed out and punished for this gross incompetence and security failure.
This is a huge issue that needs to be remedied quickly, else all our current and future politicians are at risk from internal or foreign enemies of the state. Regardless of your political alignment, all our politicians deserve a secure environment without risk to their own lives.
Anyone that blows this off as, it was just Trump, is massively underestimating the scale of this issue.
This presidential protection detail has been provided by the Uvalde Sheriff's Dept.
Agreed, we need to get the Secret Service to clean up their act before we end up risking the life of some better President!
don't most people get in trouble for social texting on the job ?
Social? They were communicating potential dangers during a shift change. That's their job.
Wish there had been this much scrutiny of the police’s behavior on Jan. 6.
I'm wondering how you might have missed the whole Congressional Committees report on it.
I meant to add, “from Republicans”.
So..... I guess cops literally aren't here to protect anyone.
Whether you're a kid in school, or a former president. Cops ain't here for you.
the most interesting thing about all of this is how no one's really outraged at this colossal police failure, like they usually are. it's like "oh.. they dropped the ball on trump's security? oh well shit happens whattayagonnado amirite?"
Trump and his ilk are a big factor to why the police are like this so it's a bit of karmic justice regardless of anything else.
We already know that cops are incompetent. We would just like it if they weren't also doing the occasional murder.
I mean, it's his campaign's decision to hold these giant open air rallies in unsecured locations. So... shrug
Yeah, that was shown in Warren v. DC, in 1981.
We knew this already?
The local sniper team was already reported to have sent this up the chain but got no response until that guy climed onto the roof and was about the shoot.
When everyone thinks it's someone else's problem and that person will deal with it.
This seems the most likely reason. It is sort of like they teach in first aid. You don't say someone call 911 because everyone thinks someone else will. You need to tell one person directly.
The problem here is that it is not a group of untrained bystanders stumbling upon a surprise emergency. There is supposed to be a pre-established chain of command and group to take these reports and ensure that they are investigated.
Hell, I was part of events where governors made appearances, and the county had their communication command post setup and even gave radios and a briefing to our volunteers at gates and all of the area leads to report anything directly to the command post.
seems like teaching cops to put their own safety before literally everyone else is maybe a non-small portion of the problem
Even Burning Man has a proper chain of command for incident management. If a bunch of hippies in the desert can do it, the Secret Service has no excuse.
I mean, ACAB, but I do relate to not wanting to die for Donald Trump, and preferring texts to hostile in person meetings.
So I’m guessing that no one from a foreign government has even tried to take out presidential candidates? Because this kid got extremely close all while openly researching past assassinations, scoped out the rally site before the secret service, flew his drone and even got spotted multiple times. I could only imagine how easy it would be for real professional killers funded by a government.
Perhaps the only reason it's not been attempted is that Trump is the best bet for most enemy foreign governments.
I like to think that there's been a regular effort to stay ahead of those who might try things, and often they get thwarted early on and we just don't hear about it. Because if that's not what's been happening for years, and things that do happen are only because of mistakes or blatant removal of the efforts (looking at you, Cheney)...then no one except the few historically acts has bothered to try anything, and that seems really unlikely given how much the rest of the world "loves" us so much.
Hardly a fan of Trump, but he is a former President and due the protection that apparently was not fully engaged. Why it wasn't in place needs to be discovered and fixed. For all sides, this isn't partisan, this is basic security. And if this is broke, what else is?
I bet they will be now
ACAB
I mean, I wouldn't have stopped him either.
Lazy cops being lazy cops. Politically I don't think there is any world where Trump is a net positive, even if you're an accelerationist. However, if you're a cop, you're supposedly a steward of public safety. Any interdiction before that kid grabbed his backpack could've saved lives. Including the shooter's if there had been any de-escalation success.
ACAB
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