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Lol. After all these years they're thinking of rolling back the 5v5 changes. To quote someone from Reddit:

PVE was dropped, heroes are free again, and now 6v6 is back. Blizzard spent the last couple of years turning overwatch 2 back into Overwatch 1.

Edit: See also the developer's blog post about this, which goes into great detail explaining their decisions over the year and how we got here. Really worth a read if you are (or were) an OW player.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

i played hundred of hours of OW1, bought a OWL jersey, went to a couple live games...

Never bothered to install OW2. It was just too clearly the same game with worse monetization.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Important to remind everyone that a LOT of your negative memories and feelings surrounding OW1 and 6v6 were due to the migraine magnets called 2cp. Literally a stand in the choke for 9 years and see who correctly uses every Q under the sun correctly first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The fundamental issue with this game is they made some classes absolutely stomp others in 1v1. If you want to make a game that can scale to different team sizes, every class should at least have a chance of beating any other.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What you are suggesting is the issue is what they have been trying to 'fix', but it goes completely against what Overwatch is and what made it great to begin with. It's not about 1v1s, it's a team game and they have attempted to devolve it into a 1v1 game where you just happen to have 4 other teammates.

A damage hero should absolutely win 1v1 vs a support hero everytime and it shouldn't even be close.

It's fine if you enjoy the solo play style more, but it's just not what Overwatch is about and why the majority of the original Overwatch playerbase quit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Counterpoint, in TF2 teamwork is also very important, yet every class can quickly drop every other one. Even medic can drop a heavy in under 4 seconds of sustained fire.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This isn't TF2 though is it, the games were designed differently and achieved different things. If TF2 is the game you want, why not play that? Overwatch had it's own identity, one the devs have slowly stripped away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I agree with you, but many players get deeply offended when a dps gets beaten by a sup

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm still playing TF2 🤓

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It is way too much of a transaction first over any real substance game. This is just something to get people in the door to sell you more crap.

We don’t even have a game mode filter yet, but they will sure spend the year shoving microtransactions in your face.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

This is interesting. I mean of course, I am aware of the reasons they did this massive change, and on paper they all made sense ahead of time.

They also massively degraded the game feel, and IMO were ultimately the wrong solution for the problem(s) they were facing. I understand why they did it, much like I understand why they chased the eSports-hype, but I disagree with all actions taken and their outcomes regardless.

The game had already mostly lost me by the time OW2 rolled around, and between the very intense-feeling 5v5 that was nothing like the chill chat-with-friends-while-playing-some-OW we had before and the rampant monetization, I just dropped off. I don't think this will at all make me come back to the game, but on a conceptual level I really enjoy them at least experimenting with undoing a lot of the shit they did to the game over the years, this isn't the only thing they're reverting after all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Blizz really went downhill after they sold out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I‘m pretty sure that the Overwatch 2 debacle started before blizzard was sold to MS

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah right, but Blizzard was/is part of activision, isn‘t it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I‘m pretty sure that the Overwatch 2 debacle started before blizzard was sold to ~~MS~~ Activision

It was sold to Activision before it was sold to Microsoft.

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