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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Did you try any of these and not like it? Yes -> geology

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Came here to say I felt under represented lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Do you collect locks?" is also a good one.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Economics just means studying how we distribute limited goods. It breaks down when goods aren't limited (or rather, we have more of it than we can reasonably use), but we're not quite at that level of post-scarcity for most things. Though we might be close enough to cover the first level of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.

Economics as a practical discipline tends to assume capitalism. Economics can still be valid without assuming capitalism. There are tons of non-capitalist modes of distributing limited goods.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I mean mainstream economics is a farce. MMT at least approaches sanity. Yeah you need Marxism-Leninism but there aren't many of those economists in Western academia.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Of course a hexbear tankie would think that. Sincerely hope you're joking, but maybe I shouldn't hope to not get severely disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

That's cool dude, except you worship it like a religion. Did you know your GDP numbers count rents and debts the same as production?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm no fan of Hexies but economics - at least as understood by neoliberals - is not real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Economics gathers and interprets data like any other STEM field, don't know what else to tell you. The stuff I learned in my degree is very much real.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but what if we imagine it's real and convince everyone to believe it too. Surely nothing will go wrong!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm kind of joking, if you want legit economics check out Mike Hudson and other MMT authors or preferably become a communist. Mainstream economists live to justify rent seeking by the ruling class. They don't distinguish between production and rents and debts etc

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be clear: you like money, but you will not earn money.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Poor and middle-income people earn money. Rich people just take it from the people who earn it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

After indirect

Do you want to feel like you are in a secret society? Yes -> actuarial sciences

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You know it’s a complete and proper list because it excludes that pseudo-science Geology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Geology is just a specialized field of chemistry. Biology too for that matter.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

30 years ago when I started heading down the computer science path, nothing about it seemed evil.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've had this thought for a while and I definitely agree that a lot of software I've built is a net negative to society as a whole and the only reason why I get paid as well as I do is because I'm helping rich assholes suck value out of society more efficiently.

For instance, I've worked on CMSs that automated 90% of the processes for medium-large insurance companies. Sure, it may result in a marginal price reduction for insureds (lol), but it almost certainly has led to fewer staff being hired to the benefit of the overlords. If more and more middle-class white-collar jobs gets replaced by software, that helps put downward pressure on wages. At the end of it all, are the marginally lower prices worth it to society, when everyone has a lower wage or no well paying job forcing them to participate in the gig economy and such?

It's a depressing thought, and I've been trying to break into research engineering roles or something of the sort to get away from my current role but it's been an uphill task.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I feel like I mostly got away with it without being evil thus far. I ended up working for a foundation and the team I'm in builds internet access (and layer 2 transport) for institutions of higher education. But maybe network engineering isn't really the typical outcome, most of my friends became developers.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly at this point in my software career (~10 years), it's not evil per se, but I don't feel great about essentially existing to help rich people (VCs, PE, etc.) get richer. But I suppose that's a problem that isn't limited to IT.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Certainly not limited to IT. One of my professors from many years was an aerospace engineer^1^. He recounts to us the time that he busted his ass on some design for a long time and managed to make some huge cost savings. And then after it was done he realized that all he really did with his extra hard work was help some executives and stockholders get a bit richer. Not long after that he switched to education.

^1^Not in the defense industry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I kiss ass so I can get rich while my boss gets richer off me. Perhaps I'll work harder with a gun in my back for a bowl of rice a day.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (8 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well, whilst it's basically Astrology, it does decorate itself heavily with Mathematics.

(A more serious answer is: it depends on which part within Economics one is talking about. For example Behavioural Economics does use the Scientific Method).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Econometrics, data science, behavioural economics, game theory, micro and macroeconomics, public policy, all of it uses the scientific method and is empirical.

Could you clarify which part of economics you believe is not scientific?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Having done a degree, yes. It's entirely empirical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It falls into both Science and Math

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Yes. In the heirarchy of science, it ranks just below literature.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Not only that, but it apparently doesn't even involve math anymore!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago

Hey, if biology qualifies, why not that?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Economics is science but with resources.

Economics is like ecology for the financial / resource world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm under the impression that it's half math half psychology of groups.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is literally the path I took to become an Env. Scientist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Same for computer science

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

accurate, and for the record, EPA, you can take my DCM wash bottle out of my DEAD DEGREASED HANDS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

When I find a solvent on pubchem that has the taste characterized by some mad lad from the 1800s, it makes me want to try it.

You say THF is spicy water? Now I'm curious. We must confirm this claim.

I hear ether smells good. We must confirm this claim.

These fancy new box cutters are safe and cannot cut your hand. We must confirm this claim.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Like, so what if we store our tBuLi with other low-flash point flammables? And pyrophoric oxidizers? In the same bin? That's stuck in a block of ice in the 30-year-old freezer because it hasn't ever been de-iced?

What if the power goes out for a long period of time and the tBuLi goes for a swim? Or we say you have to de-ice the freezer?

Haha sounds crazy. And, I wouldn't have to do the shitty quench before disposal. Or work on that project anymore.

Because you're injured or because PI fires you?

Haha, yeah :)

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Oh, while you're here, does this still smell like DCM? I can't tell if I rotavapped it all off and the NMR tubes all need aqua regia (sorry my b).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aqua regia isn't even that scary. Try pipetting pure bromine while it shoots itself out from constantly evaporating

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aqua regia ain't no piranha, and also ain't the most concerning thing in my post lol.

Ah bromine. Super dense, low MW, and low bp, all making dosing accurate amounts a heroic feat. If you store your bromine cold, you can precool the pipette by sucking up and spitting out a few times before transfering, which helps cut down the vapor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Like, so what if we store our tBuLi with other low-flash point flammables? And pyrophoric oxidizers? In the same bin? That's stuck in a block of ice because in the 30-year-old freezer because it hasn't ever been de-iced?

That's just bad management and you shouldn't store tBuLi that long anyway because it'll decompose. You shouldn't put it in freezer either

Oh, while you're here, does this still smell like DCM? I can't tell if I rotavapped it all off and the NMR tubes all need aqua regia (sorry my b).

just put it on high vacuum

What are you working with that requires aqua regia to clean NMR tubes? I've only had to use piranha once in a decade, while cleaning things that acetone, DCM, and basic ethanol won't touch, and this was just after moving to another lab

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's just bad management / just put it on high vacuum

Yes. The whole thing is satirizing the "Safety -> Against" bit. Each piece, though exaggerated for effect, has a basis in something I've seen over the years.

Regarding NMR tubes though, the answer in my old group was precious metal complexes, which have a tendency to mirror out once they've done their bit. Or just existed for too long; a lot of them were touchy. The mirror tends to resist solvents and scrubbing. Nitric acid alone sometimes was enough to remove it depending on the metal, but often not. At some point the cost, effort, and danger are all supposed to outweigh just binning the lot and buying new tubes, but my PI was allergic to buying new things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look, I'm all for green chemistry, and I'll switch to using safer, more environmentally friendly reagents and solvents the second they are close to the efficacy of the real deal.

Until then, leave my acetone and heavy-metal catalysts alone!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Acetone is rather green (7 in GSK solvent guide), but I for one haven't used heavy metal catalysts in a year, and more if you don't count palladium

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

"Frickin' beautiful."

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