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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Microsoft already has a very bad reputation, so they will be blamed for every issue on their OS.

Vista suffered from bad 3rd party drivers, then people proceeded to just dunk on M$ due to their already bad name. Despite Edge is nowadays just a different flavor of Chromium, people are still making "haha IE slow" memes, even those that still claim Google being the "savior of the internet".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So in the end, they is an internal contradiction in capitalism. It just append to be collapse due to lack of ressources and dumb management

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What does an economic system have to do with bad IT decisions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  • Short term interest: Yearly benefits make the corporation value. Work to enhance stability, such as investment in other open source project, documentation, formation, or code quality enhancement are less likely to qet time
  • Commercial focus: In a capitalist economy, we don't have pure and perfect knowledge of product. Even if it's supposed to work like this, commercials and adds are way more effective to sell products, than a top notch product
  • Antagonist interests: even if workers tend to like making good stuff, they'd rather eat and get housed. Sending a warning because the products are bad or dangerous can threat someone that made a bad decision, which is likely to be someone in charge. Keeping a low profile is (unfortunately) a reasonable behavior

I think that an economy lead by financial interest, open market, and a hierarchy in the production is a good definition of capitalism.

And yes, definitely the way that people get food, housing, and not being exclude will define a lot of thing in society.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago
  • Short term interest: this is just human nature. All economic models work around human nature and desires. People desire short-term gains in pretty much any endeavor. If this was a communist society, they'd still rush to get this thing out as fast as possible so they could meet state quotas/meet whatever other incentive is being offered to finish the job. The problem comes not from the motivations, but how they respond to it. Rushing deadlines and ignoring the need for testing and quality code is a universal human constant.
  • Commercial focus: we have a much better idea of how much an endeavor, product, service, etc. will cost under capitalism because we have a decentralized and automatic way to calculate its value in the form of prices. Miscalculations - or simple human errors, like pushing bad code by accident - happen though, and hopefully this company has learned that prioritizing pushing something out can risk losing them money vs. testing it and coming out with a quality product.
  • Antagonist interests: this is another question of short-term vs. long-term interests. Say you have a factory. If you crank up the machines to double speed, you're potentially doubling your production, right? It isn't that simple, actually. You can end up with a lot more workplace accidents that way, which will destroy your productivity extremely quickly. Same deal here. This will, hopefully, be a lesson learned by the industry in not pushing garbage code. M$ can't serve ads to people who can't boot their PCs, and will instead lose boatloads of money suddenly having to fulfill tech support contracts because of their screw-up, for example. Crowdstrike is going to have its competitors look a lot more appealing from here on out because they've been exposed as fools. (If they have no competitors - IT people, this is your sign!) Mistakes will happen until the end of time, of course, but that doesn't mean fat-fingering the keyboard is a fault of the Western economic system.

Capitalism is, in essence, the ability for people to exchange their goods freely. It isn't dependent on corporations or some weird hierarchy of managers and workers. Those are facts of living in this system, but it isn't a direct consequence of "capitalism." If everyone worked only for themselves and produced something to bring to the exchange, that would still be capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I feel like no matter what's happening, some people will always blame capitalism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just append to be collapse due to lack of ressources and dumb management

TIL reverting the direction of Siberian rivers and turning Kazakh steppe into agricultural land were capitalist projects.

This one is a contradiction of highly hierarchical and degenerate systems.

With capitalism the contradiction is old and well known - power bends rules. Bent rules cause degeneracy. Degeneracy causes degradation and collapse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Got me interested enough to Google, maybe you should too

Research and planning work on the project started in the 1930s and was carried out on a large scale in the 1960s through the early 1980s. The controversial project was abandoned in 1986, primarily for environmental reasons, without much actual construction work ever done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If you mean the rivers part, then yes.

If you mean the steppe part, then no, they've caused a few ecological catastrophes first before stopping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Linux sysadmins know to test a fucking update before applying to the whole company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Linux admins know that you're worsening security when installing 3rd party stuff into kernel, so most of them tend to avoid it. And that's why no one noticed that Crowdstrike problem.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In April, a CrowdStrike update caused all Debian Linux servers in a civic tech lab to crash simultaneously and refuse to boot.

And then, you boot their servers from a Linux Live USB, run TimeShift to restore the last system snapshot, refuse the latest patch from Cloudstrike and they all lived happily ever after.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And on Windows you booted in safe mode and removed one file. What's the point of your post?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

boot their servers from a Linux live usb

If I ran a computer lab that wasn't already net booted, I'd use this as the motivating factor to put that in place. Net booting to a repair image, or just reinstalling the whole OS either from scratch or a known good disk image, is where anybody who manages a fleet of computers should be.

There was a point in time where I had a pxe boot server vm set up on my laptop that I used to reload servers in our little row of racks at 365 main, because it let me quickly swap out the boot iso, and was faster than usb sticks were at the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good luck doing that remotely. Which is the sole problem with this most recent CrowdStrike bug.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Anybody who doesn't already have ipmi serial console access set up needs to put that on their list of acceptance criteria for remediation of this incident.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

None of these things are used in actual server operations.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

And it's not much more difficult to fix on Windows, except for the scale of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Companies don't really use Debian or Rocky in widescale production because they have no support.

Now red hat or ubuntu is a different matter.

Honestly though this does point out that this is a pattern of behavior on crowdstrikes part. This should have been the canary in the coalmine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don’t know about that. In the HPC space we use a lot of EL distros. Mainly Centos & now Rocky. Most of the nodes run the os in ram too. Though almost all those kind of systems have no internet connection and don’t use things like crowdstrike. I’ve worked for a few places where the only part of the company that used windows was the office staff eg accounting, hr, etc. everything else is/was using an EL distro or upstream of one eg Fedora. Those type of places usually don’t mess things like crowdstrike for a lot of different reasons eg the kind of data they’re processing and security requirements on that data.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

We use Alma, which is basically Rocky. Before that, CentOS. Lots of people don't need or want the expensive support contracts.

OSS support though donations and commits is the way to go unless you get value out of those contracts (we would not).

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

A lot of companies use debian

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

We actually use rocky and I think Debian at work for servers. We are currently migrating away from EOL centos .

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