this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2024
1127 points (98.5% liked)

Science Memes

14674 readers
2406 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
(page 3) 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I remember going on a nature walk in Middle School, and our primary stoner/everyone's future dealer (we'll call him Nate because that was his name) picked and ate a random mushroom for the lols. I remember spending the entirety of that walk worrying about Nate's next couple of days. But as you likely pieced together, he was fine, and lived to become everyone's future dealer.

EDIT: For anyone wondering, it was one of those small, skinny, kind of spindly looking mushrooms. Almost like psilocybin but with a flatter cap.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 24 points 10 months ago

The Modern Shaman, hero in the shadows we didn't know we needed.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

Idk if op meant to fearmonger, but mushrooms are hardly ever toxic and hardly ever fatal.

It is now thought that of the approximately 100,000 known fungi species found worldwide, about 100 of them are poisonous to humans.[14] However, by far the majority of mushroom poisonings are not fatal,[15] and the majority of fatal poisonings are attributable to the Amanita phalloides mushroom

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_poisoning

That said, definitely be safe and if you arent sure, dont eat it.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 158 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (29 children)

A general rule is if it has pores instead of gills, you’re probably in the clear.

Except for that one in Europe, that shit will megadeath you.

In all seriousness, the general rule I’ve heard for foraging wild unknown things is:

  • cut it open and rub it on your skin, wait an hour, if it gives you a reaction, stop here.
  • touch it to your lips, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • touch it to your tongue, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • chew a bit and spit it out, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
  • swallow a small amount, wait a few hours, if it gives you discomfort, stop here
  • if you’ve made it this far, it’s likely ok, do so at your own risk tolerance

Roots are generally OK, particularly if you have access to double boil them.

For mushrooms:

  • pores are generally safer than gills
  • don’t eat it if it’s bioluminescent
  • don’t eat if it oxidizes quickly when you cut it open
  • don’t eat it if it bruises blue or red
  • learn how to detect what a bolete is. Boletes are generally safe, unless it breaks one of the rules above
  • Slime: Just say no.
  • make sure there’s not a mushroom growing on your mushroom. Double the mushroom is not double the fun.
  • learn what a destroying angel looks like, even when it’s young. Appreciate it from a distance, but give that fucker 5 feet of space at all times.

I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

When in doubt, take it to an expert and even then, consume at your own risk tolerance.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The mushrooms from the bolete family here in Germany often stain blue (or some other color) when bruised but most are very good mushrooms for eating. For example, Imleria badia, Neoboletus erythropus and Suillus grevillei. The last one is even slimy but you can just remove the cap. (There is also this really tasty gill-having mushroom Lactarius deliciosus that stains green). Also, Armillaria can do bioluminescence but are also edible! I agree with checking for fungi infections of mushrooms and to learn to ID the deadly poisonous Amanita species (funnily enough, there are some really good edible ones in the same genus!).

Your guide to carefully test foraged organisms is definitely helpful. However, when foraging mushrooms you have to keep in mind some additional things. Many, if not most mushrooms are really toxic when eaten raw! People frequently get poisoned while eating edible mushrooms that are not cooked enough. They apparently often contain hemolysins. Also, there are a few tasty mushrooms that can be toxic if eaten in combination with alcohol. If you go foraging mushrooms, better try to learn some groups, how to distinguish them and what are their characteristics than trying to test by your body's reaction. But yeah, if you were to be without any food in the wild maybe it helps to know how to test for edibility.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] deus@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Roots might be safe if you can double boil them??? Jesus christ, I guess I'm never touching wild mushrooms ever.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

No clue if you have any idea what you're talking about but appreciate the Information dump. If I'm ever near death from hunger but surrounded by forest floor growths I'll try to remember this.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 15 points 10 months ago

I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

Best disclaimer ever.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (3 children)

For mushrooms the only good advice is, if you don't know what you are doing, don't go foraging for mushrooms. Rules and guidelines that apply for one region might not work for another. The risk reward never works out if you're inexperienced. You either get a tasty treat or incurable certain death. It's not a great gamble.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Sure, and I suppose you’re going to advise me not to do my own electrical home wiring either. 😛

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're even half competent, you could (not recommended) actually do some basic electrical work at home and come out of it alive and well after a few youtube videos and some reasonable precautions. I can't same the same about mushroom foraging.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People are shocked when they find out how bad I am at electrical work!

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

don't eat it if it bruises blue

Or do if you're up for an interesting time and it passes the test above. Eat about three grams for some nice sights and 6 before sitting in a dark, cool room to meet something unknown

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't think there are any harmful mushrooms that bruise blue but would love for an expert to chime in here

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If it bruises blue, cut off a very thin slice from the center of the stalk and put it on agar until it creates mycellium. There's some other stuff you need after that which I'll be happy to help you with.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 123 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's interesting, my general rule for foraging wild unknown things is: don't.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Imagine dying for a D tier pizza topping

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (22 replies)
[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

Don't munch on a hunch

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every mushroom is edible... once.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You reminded me of this clip from the show norsemen where they have the slaves trying mushrooms to see which are poisonous and which aren't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVWix8DjM4M&t=20

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago

Cropper of memes

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 33 points 10 months ago

We don't know. The original author died from eating a false brown cap before he could finish his guide 😞

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 10 points 10 months ago

Mycologist/forager I assume

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You apparently have a shitty mushroom guide.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the mushroom guides I use in the pages for the edible mushrooms normally alert to dangerous mushrooms that may be mistaken for that mushroom and outlines the differences.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or live in Europe. Seriously, it's so much harder here, except for 3 or 4 really obvious but not that great tasting ones .

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I live in Europe. Just go by the rule of thumb, if you're unsure, do not eat. Does it have a porous underside, if yes, most of the times edible. Does it have lamelles, if yes, be careful. Apart from the very dangerous ones, that you should know. If you're a bit knowledgeable, take a pinch and put it in your tongue, if it's spicy or stinging, it's not edible. Is it neutral, it's likely to be edible. If you go by that order you should be fine. Never forget number 1 though.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

What do you mean? Chanterelles taste great

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Pick shaggy ink caps

[–] superkret@feddit.org 191 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

You can easily tell them apart by cutting them with a knife: The false brown cap will show a stronger blue discoloration under ultraviolet light if the soil contains manganese at >20% bioavailable water content, and the temperature didn't drop below 12 degrees Celsius in the past month.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 16 points 10 months ago

That's a few check boxes that need to be filled so I Don't die.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's good, I don't want to bleed out my ass and deserve it.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments