Still makes me think of Extreme-G 2: Reah Fiyah Rockets.
mool tee pull miss aisle.
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Because you have to think in russian to fire them.
The original concept for a similar system was to have the pilot jettison multiple styrofoam mcdonalds containers out the rear of the aircraft, which would shred in the jet wash and gum up the enemy engine. A mockup of the system was performed along american highways in the 1970’s.
Unfortunately, future conditions made the system impractical, not due to a difficulty in finding styrofoam containers in america, but in getting the contract-required grimmace costume on the test pilots. The program was discontinued in 2018 due to budget reappropriating of funds for backup kuerig machines in all air force base quarters.
Why would anything be "behind" them?
It's called being chased at a dogfight.
If you're in a dogfight then you're too close to use missiles effectively anyway.
You can use short range infrared homing missiles in a dogfight.
Fighter planes should just have a reverse gear. It would be much more simple.
Bandit on your 6? Time for a bootlegger reverse maneuver.
Can't just drop it into reverse from like Mach 5 gear. Would need like a Mach 1 reverse, then speed back up to Mach 5 reverse
We can't reverse. It's too dangerous. We have to slow down first!!
Bullshit! Just reverse this thing! I order you! Reverse!
Yes sir! air transmission gears grinding
I'll just leave the implementation details to you.
Hear me out.... Upgraded flight surfaces to account for lower launch speeds due to being backwards 
No, just put a ludicrously powerful engine on it.
Regular forward facing missiles need to be "aimed" at enemy planes to be effective. How can you aim at something that is behind you?
Lmao I'm pretty sure the airforce could strap a rear facing camera on a plane
So you want the driver of the plane to focus on two things? Unless you have another personnel manning that camera
Lmao you think pilots of the top of the line fighter jets can't check an instrumentation screen?
Yo Ishmael! The boys at Mithridates University have come up with this sick new tech. The Romans won't know what hit them!
Nerf please, our heavy infantry meta is no longer viable
Missiles require an inordinate amount of thrust for their weight to remain airborne, due to the lack of large(ish) wings. Because the aircraft is already moving forward at high speed, the missile would lose considerable altitude (if fired backwards) before it would acquire sufficient velocity on it’s own again.
IIRC there have been missiles that could be targeted against aircraft behind the one launching the missiles. They would lock the missile against the pursuing aircraft, fire it forward, and the missile would arc around to go after the other aircraft.
Now bullets on the other hand, can come in supersonic versions. Unless the aircraft is moving at Mach speeds (and you always slow down to dogfight in order to make turns survivable), a supersonic bullet fired backwards will have sufficient speed in that direction to reach the other aircraft without too much aiming difficulties.
Beyond bullets: AFAIK there have been experiments in launching chaff (metal filings) such that it gets ingested into the pursuing aircraft’s engines, causing damage that way. But from what I recall there was too much of a risk of other aircraft in the vicinity and below that engagement also getting caught in the falling chaff. Still good for enemy aircraft, not so much for your own teammates.
Missiles would just have their initial attitude slightly upright - much like a javelin.
There was a Clint Eastwood movie where backwards firing missiles were the whole shtick.
The catch is the plane is controlled by thoughts. Russian thoughts. The final dogfight came down to Clint finding his inner Russian and thinking of the magic word "blyat" to get the plane to fire ze backwards missiles.
It was a wild ride.
This movie seems horrible. I have to see it.
That's a fun movie
Given that summary I thought you were joking but holy shit that is an actual movie. crazy!
What the actual fuck.
It's obviously a great idea, but
(why has no one said this yet?)
Ackshually 🤓 - those things in the image of the A-4 that you flipped around are fuel tanks, not weapons.
Pretty sure those are Mark 14's.
- Mark 14 torpedos are straight in the middle, not curved all the way.
- Mark 14 torpedos have 4, not 2 fins at the end, and 2 screws.
- These are 300 gallon drop tanks. EDIT: now I'm wondering if the schematic shows the smaller Aero 1C 150 gallon drop tanks. Similar profile but thinner
A-4 Skyhawks, like most fighter/attack jets since the 1960s, usually fly with at least one drop tank of fuel. The two tanks under the wings is the most used configuration during the 60s and early 70s. Later versions, such as the USMC's A-4M, which was used until the early 90s (but not deployed in Desert Shield / Desert Storm), were often seen with a larger drop tank (400 gallon?), often preferring a single large drop tank on the centerline to have more room for weapons. These did have a significantly stronger engine so bringing a larger payload was useful.
....why does Lemmy's noncredible insist on being lesscredible, or even credible?
But thanks for the write up and graphics to show me why WWII era naval torpedoes weren't actually mounted on those hard points lol.
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