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What brands do you avoid at all cost? I don't keep up with the news all that much, and many of the reasons to avoid something don't make it there anyway. So I'm asking here to make a big list of things to avoid. It could be anything from bad security practices to really frustrating packaging. Working as a cashier myself, I definitely know there are plenty of brands I avoid purely on the basis that their product is a pain to stock.

On the flip side, what's the alternative? If you avoid Pepsi, for example, what do you turn to instead?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Literally all of them. Any big company is doing evil things, and I doubt there is an exception to that rule. Shop local, grocery shop at a co-op, eat local, prioritize products you know are actually made in your home country. Most importantly; just buy less. Repair the things you own, take care of them, borrow from friends. Never buy something "surprisingly cheap".

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I avoid anything from iSSrael, Russia or China as much as I can, also anything related to Elon Musk

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Nestle, Microsoft, Reddit, Roku, Meta, X, Google (as much as possible). I would boycott so many of them if it was possible, but I particularly avoid those because I especially hate them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Mostly anything USA since I was 12-15 years old. Israeli too since many years ago.

Coca cola, apple, google, Intel CPUs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

LG, Nestlé, Coke-Cola, Amazon, TikTok, Temu, any big brand bank, ASUS, Johnson Outdoors brands (jetboil, scuba pro)

Edit:forgot Tyson foods and Hormel. Their fucking over chicken farmers.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Samsung; just a lot of general very anti-consumer behaviour.

LG; a "do not sell my data" option on a TV that's turned off as standard? No, thanks.

ASUS; has become pretty unreliable in my experience and their RMA shenanigans haven't helped.

Apple; overpriced and anti-consumer, I wouldn't mind getting a MacBook as a gift or something, though...

HP; cheap garbage that's obsolete the moment you buy it and becomes e-waste after the warranty has expired. Their business line is marginally better but there are far better options out there.

Huawei; see above.

Nestlé; do I really have to explain? They're pretty much the worst company to ever exist.

Spotify; endless price-hikes to enable the CEO to buy more soccer teams and firearm manufacturer shares, pay artists almost nothing per stream, disabled their car thing after two years, lied about Spotify Hi-Fi....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'd like to know the alternatives, especially for Samsung, I still think it is the best smart phone company

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Same. Samsung phones are so damn easy to flash

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Google Pixels are even easier to flash, and they have full Verified Boot support even when running a custom OS

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Motorola for phones. Does everything you need with a near AOSP android. Affordable too. good official support, and good community support with lineageos

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

marked to the note!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This might be a bit controversial, as Google is obviously also known for their fair share of not so good stuff but I really like their Pixel line of devices. Especially for that stock android experience (doesn't Samsung even pre-install TikTok nowadays?). Sony phones are also pretty decent from my experience.

As for laptops, the business lines of both Dell (Latitude & Precision) and Lenovo (ThinkPad) are pretty solid. Especially Dell's support is just amazing, I deal with them regularly at work and they've been really great.

As for ASUS; I haven't had to buy a mainboard in a while but I heard some good things about Gigabyte.

Tidal is a pretty good alternative to Spotify; I think they pay artists the most per stream out of all music streaming services, they offer true Hi-Fi quality for the same price Spotify charges for their base tier and they even upgraded all Hi-Fi members to Hi-Fi Plus for free recently.

Nestlé is a big enough campany that you just have to live with not buying their products I guess... Although there are pretty good alternatives for stuff like frozen pizza (Dr. Oetker is pretty good if that's available where you live) and chocolate (Tony's Chocolonely ftw).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I was asking only about the technology stuff actually so huge thanks, mom likes Nestlé's milk for some reason, me not, their products are always of higher price even water.
I keep hearing good things about the pixel, but the problem is that Google doesn't make that much phones, while Samsung has devices for every price (As, Js, Ss, ...etc) and even if you're screwed it's not like Wiko (traume intensifies). I don't hate TikTok specifically but yeah I hate bloatware on my devices, I used to have even Youtube and Chrome uninstalled back when I had a smart phone (J4+ was my brother's choice for me)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Budget phones aren't really worth it when you can get a flagship from 3 years ago (with most likely better specs) for about the same price IMO. Sure, updates are a problem but if you're willing to tinker around a bit it's doable.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Amazon

Coca cola

Google , except android.

Nestlé

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Google , except android

May GrapheneOS change that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

HiSense - they make appliances and they're junk

All bottled water - no one needs them and it's plastic that's here forever

Temu - disposable shit

Bath and Body Works - the creators of microbeads (plastic) hand soap

Teflon - poisoned my town's water

Chick-fil-A - evangelist food, no thanks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All bottled water - no one needs them and it's plastic that's here forever

Depends on where you live. It's a bit ignorant to say "no one needs them". Also sometimes you have no choice, like maybe in an airport.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Amazon: I avoid them because of worker abuse and union busting. While prime shipping is convenient, planning around not having it comes pretty naturally. Just plan as if it’s not an option at all. This does require good internet search skills to find sites that sell what you’re looking for, but I can’t express how worth it the work is to get better quality products.

Starbucks: I avoid them because of union busting. I make most of my coffee and tea at home, it’s cheaper and better anyway. Otherwise, I go to a local cafe. My area has a lot of them, but even if yours doesn’t, try asking around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Coca-Cola, Apple, Samsung, HP.

My alternatives are none (water & coffee only), Android (OnePlus specifically for phones), LG/Toshiba for consumer electronics, Brother for printers and Dell or Lenovo for laptops.

Edit: Oh yeah and Tesla, not only because of Musk, I simply don't want to drive a tablet on wheels. I'm going for low-tech cars only. Some barebones Kia, Hyundai or Dacia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Tesla, Red Bull, Believe Music, Microsoft, Samsung, so many more I can’t think of right now

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Samsung. & Vodafone. For NZrs: Fisher & Pykel.

F&P quality is shit and the first two have awful customer service. Samsung also, while they do innovate, lack quality and don't stick by their products.

Also: HP and Apple. Shitty lock-in tactics

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Not really answering the question but I've completely stopped buying anything that requires USB micro B. I can't fucking stand that connector. USB C costs a negligible amount more and I've yet to have a single port or cable fail irreparably after using it for the best part of a decade.

An actual answer to the question? I'm done with Microsoft and Nvidia. I'd love to add Google to the list but I'm still largely entrenched in their ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Walmart, Amazon, Blizzard, EA, Apple, McDonalds, Then some of the mega brands when I can avoid them like Unilever, General Mills, etc

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why? Because of quality, service or?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, I guess spirit is technically the cheapest. So that might be worth it to people all on its own. But I find the seating to be very cramped, I don't like the feeling of being "nickel and dimed" with their "charge for everything" scheme, and when I rode spirit they would have extremely generous take off and landing estimates so that even with many delays, they are still "on time".

None of this is really malicious, I think they are clear about the fact that they offer cheap tickets for a cheap experience. But man, as a customer, it feels bad. I will just pay the extra money and go with something else.

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