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Is there some connection to the nation?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fwiw, I don't think the connection to communism was ever confirmed by the admins. Likely a happy accident for them

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (7 children)

No, theyre marxist-leninists. Basically, unironic communists.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

who are, ironically, not communist

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Marx wasnt a communist? Ive heard a lot of "not true communism" takes, but thats a new one.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Probably because you haven't read much on the subject. Marxist theory speculated on how societies and economies could transition into communism. He and others created the philosophy and Concepts involving it. But were not communist strictly speaking. At least not in anything other than the state of the individual.

Engles, and Lenin mistakenly thought that by replacing the authority and power of the wealthy with their own people. That they themselves would not fall to the corruption of power. And eventually over time the authoritarian state would somehow magically wither and die. Leaving them with a classless stateless society. Keep that in mind that is important for understanding whether something is communist or not.

Was Russia classless or stateless? No Russia was a state. And they had plenty of different classes. ML never eliminated that. In fact all the current Russian oligarchs have direct ties back to the political Elite of Soviet russia. And instead of transitioning into a communist Society they've transitioned into fascism.

Now let's look at china. Is China a state? Yes. Not communist then. Are there different classes of people in china? Yes not communist then. Their claim on even socialism is somewhat tenuous at best. But they are definitely not communist. And at this rate will never transition into communism. Xi Jinping has moved into the Emperor's Palace and is all but Emperor in name only at this point. He and his wealthy friends will never relinquish power to transition to communism. They will stay as they are until he dies. And then there will be a power vacuum. There may be some in fighting but someone will replace him and China will continue on until there there is another Revolution to replace the failed Communist Revolution that put them in power. Are they transition into open fascism as well.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Of course Marx wasn't a communist. He was a Marxist. Duh.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the meaning is that the Lemmy.ml fascists aren't actually communist.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

How do you not know? He literally wrote a book about not to be a communist called The MaNOfest of the ComunNOst Party.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can’t remember the specifics but the Mali government was allowing free (or super cheap) use for awhile so that was the reason.

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 4 months ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I'd assumed it was a reference to machine learning.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine someone's been active on Lemmy for a year and didn't know that...

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I had no idea about this, and I’ve been here for just over a year. Also, keep in mind which community this is.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

I don’t think I’ve ever questioned it before. There’s so many servers I don’t bother to know the history behind them all.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And I think they used to be free.

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