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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/37281970

Believe it or not, an unexpected conflict has arisen in the openSUSE community with its long-time supporter and namesake, the SUSE company.

At the heart of this tension lies a quiet request that has stirred not-so-quiet ripples across the open source landscape: SUSE has formally asked openSUSE to discontinue using its brand name.

Richard Brown, a key figure within the openSUSE project, shared insights into the discussions that have unfolded behind closed doors.

Despite SUSE’s request’s calm and respectful tone, the implications of not meeting it could be far-reaching, threatening the symbiotic relationship that has benefited both entities over the years.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

call it SUES. SUSE won't be able to complain since they are so hung up on it being pronounced SU-SAY.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Just rename it jeSUSE, because nobody fucks with the jeSUSE.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ChameleonOS seems to be already taken... Maybe ReptileOS?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Just go the last step and call it Jesus OS

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

~~Dont do things that aren't necessary.~~
~~The name is adequate, it performs it's function, its there.~~

~~Feels like consumerism, always "innovating" for the sake if being new and flashy.~~

Oh, wait, SUSE said that? Weird.
I guess if it's a (kind of) must, tho that makes me weary of what's SUSEs plan that they would benefit from this. It can't be just stupid manager stuff, right? :D

That said, I submit open-me-SUSSY for consideration.
I believe most will assume correctly what the general idea for the logo would be, so no need to sketch it.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago

Rename it to openSUS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

openSUSE is already a brand, now the main thing is not to get lost.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

When I hear openSUSE, I think of german engineering and resources from SUSE, with a history of innovating great infrastructure.
With a new name, distanced from the SUSE part, I'll probably feel more like if this is yet another random derivative created by a small group who might soon lose interest.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 77 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'd love them to replace SUSE with SUS. Distrowatch click rate +500%

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I would that too

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems a pointless endeavour. The open and enterprise sides are so deeply linked, it makes sense that they share a brand.

Separating them only weakens the broader SUSE ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@thehatfox @banazir
Suse and Oracle already have an enterprise-level community project, OpenELA. This image explains very well in my opinion why SUSE is asking the openSUSE community to remove the SUSE name.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't SUSE actively benefit from openSUSE development? I thought Tumbleweed and SLES had a similar relationship as Fedora and RHEL.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

SUSE provide a lot of the infrastructure for openSUSE and base their enterprise Linux from factory.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Notice that "Fedora" does not have "Redhat" its name. Maybe the request is reasonable. I don't know how many people think that thy don't need SLES, because there is openSUSE.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Since I had to deal with some representatives of SUSE corp, I can say that the whole experience was just plain horrible. Don‘t like that company at all and thus am not surprised that the name change topic is even discussed at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

If they were to rename/rebrand, what would be the new name, do you think?

I've heard mention of GeekLinux/GeekOS.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Is openSusie different enough to be considered?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Dear Lord I hope they don't go with that one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It would be non-professional as frick.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow. SUSE family of distribution is relatively small footprint. Whole story sounds like "splitting the hair". The only reasonable explanation is that SUSE hired some self-glorified marketer from big corp. omg...

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (14 children)

No, there are good reasons for it. A lot of people get confused between SUSE and openSUSE offerings. Often SUSE customers show up in openSUSE places, because they believe that it's a place they can get official support. And I'm sure a lot of potential customers might get confused in the same way too.
On the flip side there are also a lot of openSUSE (adjacent) users who think SUSE is (secretly or not) making openSUSE development decisions or think they can dand SUSE to do that and that.

So there are some good reasons to consider a rebranding, but also some speaking against it, like the less of recognition it might entail.

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