I would say DS9 was progressive.
If the topic is woke Star Trek, it's rather Discovery.
this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2024
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Let’s not forget:
- The Kiss
- white/black Riddler duking it out with black/white guy in an allegory to race relations
- Abraham Lincoln calling Uhura a “a charming negress” followed by a brief discussion about the future’s take on linguistics and equality
- the pilot episode had a woman named Number One who was so named because she was number one at everything she did. She excelled at all the things on the ship. A woman being better than men? Impossible. That’s woke.
- the Enterprise and a bunch of klingons once showed up to a planet so woke they ended war and used space magic to make the humans and klingons also do no wars in their vicinity.
- in another episode the Enterprise went to a planet that still had war but they calculated the results of battles using a video game console and then sent casualties to their death in a disintegration chamber and the Kirk blew up the video game console to force them to either negotiate or go back to actual war as a lesson in ignoring the Prime Directive directly.
- there was a Nazi planet and the Nazis were the bad guys.
- there was also a Yankee planet where they somehow independently wrote the Declaration of Independence in broken pidgin English and used it to defeat the Space Soviets.
- the episode where Kirk and a woman exchange bodies was… not handled well and is not a good example.
- the klingons were soviets, btw.
- basically every episode of the original series had something “woke”, okay? It was literally the whole point of the series.
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Wokeness is not the issue with disco, et al. It's terrible writing, poor science even for soft sci fi, and too many cringey moments.
I get that some people love it. But the emotional resolution porn is, to me, just icky.
Stamets is coming for you.
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Wait, who is the trans worm supposed to be?
Dax and all trills?
And the bisexual terrorist?
That would be Kira. Although I don't think she was really bisexual either. The mirror universe Kira had like a narcissistic crush on non-mirror universe Kira if I remember correctly.
Oh, right, Mirror Kira definitely was, true. But our Kira was pretty focused on the one organ. I guess unless Odo counts as another gender.
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I forgot the symbiote was a worm thing. They really only showed that in one episode if I remember correctly, and that was already a retcon from what they did in TNG originally. I was also confused by the trans part because the symbiote doesn't really have a gender identity, the host does.
Her swapping genders is.....SOMETHING.
Lets just call it trans and go get a drink.
I find it telling that all they had to do in order to make being trans "acceptable" on TV was to make them be an alien species with an even more alien critter living inside them. And it worked, nobody ever questioned it even a little bit.
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I'm totally fine with that. I just thought it was a confusing description at first because I forgot about the symbiote being a "worm" thing.
Also, I too love cheese...
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The bad guys on the show were: Space Hitler, Space Karen, Quark
Quark isn't a bad guy 😢
He was an antagonist. Constantly trying to subvert order.
Quark is more of an inside track informant than an outright villain. While he often held to the Rules of Acquisition, he found himself going against the grain enough to be exiled.
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One of the beauties of fantasy is that it is whatever you want it to be regardless of the authors intent