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My SO and I discussed that engagement rings shouldn't be expensive.

What should I look for in good value rings? Lab grown diamonds? Fake diamonds? gold? white gold? silver? platinum?

Also, what kind of cut? Moissante vs Lab grown?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I went with moissanite. It's sparklier than diamond. My wife still gets compliments on it years later.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

You want a plain ring to go with your plain fiancée, is that how it is?

Next thing you know she'll be dreaming of a guy with wavy hair and chestnut eyes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I got our engagement rings from a gumball machine. Was really hard to find. And even harder to find one that sold rings. When I had finally found one I didn't have a single 20 cent coin it required on me. I flagged down passerby from across the street. She gave me two coins and refused to take my one Euro in exchange.

Those two coins netted me five balls, which included three rings. I selected the most beautiful and headed home.

We've been married for over 13 years so far.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

From when my partner and I bought our ring set, we went to a gem shop instead of a jewelry store. We had three rings given to us by family members, and wanted to rework them into a new set for me and then get a matching ring for my husband. Every jewelry store we went to wanted $6-8k to do the rework. We ended up at the gem shop as a last resort, because we were both over it. The gem shop reworked and made my engagement ring, wedding band, added a lab grown sapphire, and found a ring for my husband for $1900 total. And they did it all on our timeframe of two weeks.

My advice is to shop around and talk to people. All the big jewelry shops were so expensive, and smaller businesses will probably be better on your budget.

Shout out to Bob's Gem Shop in Escondido, California! They got us a great deal and I love our set. 😍

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if she will go for it get a 100 pack of rubber or silicon rings (dollor store) they look nice from the distance strangers should look and no worry about lost rings and no safety worries.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Remember there are other precious stones than diamonds. Ruby, emerald, sapphire. For me, they're all prettier than diamonds, and have a much longer tradition.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Wow, tough crowd. At no point did you say you were looking at typical diamonds but you're still getting jumped. My interpretation is that you're not interested in mined diamonds and are already aware of the massive ethical issues.

I can't tell you if she actually wants an expensive ring with a big rock, despite what that other comment assures you. That's something you have to determine. My SO wanted something pretty and durable, not expensive. She meant it. She also picked a stone in her favorite color. I think it's flanked by small diamonds for that sparkle but it was only $350 at a department store. I guess at this point I should mention why she did all the shopping and why I don't really know: I proposed with a paper ring and quoted Taylor Swift in doing so. Rather than take a guess and potentially be way off from what she's been looking at on her own, she was able to choose it herself. Some people may be upset that you didn't do all the traditional work, but that's between you and your SO and for you to determine acceptability. A woman with established desires (beyond price) in a ring has likely already done a ton of shopping.

If she tends to be rough with her hands, diamonds are still the most durable stone available. It will take most stones a long time to be visibly scratched, but it happens - especially around sand. That also means if she loses jewelry, the ring may not be around long enough to matter.

I wouldn't recommend silver since it's softer and tarnished a little faster than the other options.

As far as cut, you're really getting into an opinionated area. Some people like the traditional cartoon cut, some like an older oval, some a rectangle, etc. It depends on her style and how loud she wants her jewelry to be.

It's a very variable topic. The only thing I can say, and this applies to many things, is that when you get down to the final 5ish options, no one else will know what you chose between. You'll forget too. They'll probably all be nearly identical if you were to describe them on paper without a picture. There's no such thing as perfect but you always come to simply accept something for being what it is. I went through this with dozens of paint chips when remodeling a house. Once the walls are painted, your guests will never know nor care how long you spent choosing between G305-03 and G306-03.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I watch a youtuber who does reaction videos with her boyfriend. She said she'd rather have a blow-pop than a diamond.

Her reasoning is that blowpops are way cheaper, so you can use that money saved on your future together.

..........but maybe don't do that unless your fiancee is cool.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Diamonds are a commodity like gold and silver. You can buy market value diamonds from a dealer and then have a ring made. Even for synthetic diamonds this is the cheapest way to get a diamond ring.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

avoid diamonds. there are prettier (and more humane) stones. not to mention: more affordable

instead, choose a stone and metal that reflect your and your intended's personalities rather than some boring thing billions of others have.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Are lab grown okay, value wise? what about moissante?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Lab grown are produced under conditions that would get you animal cruelty charges if you subjected your pets to them. And they are separated from their siblings very early in the process and sold off to stores all across the country.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I went with moissanite and it was perfect. Just don't go too big or it will be obvious that it's not a diamond, because normal folks can't afford huge diamonds.

I went to a local jeweler and they ordered in the moissanite for me, then affixed it to one of their rings. The entire thing was around $350.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Both are beautiful, and both are easily distinguishable from natural diamonds for being too perfect. The irony is that natural diamonds increase in value if they have fewer imperfections, but almost no natural diamonds have zero imperfections.

Value-wise, in theory a natural diamond will hold its value over time, but in practice the value of natural diamonds is manipulated by the diamond conglomerates that control the market. We won't "exhaust the supply" of diamonds in our lifetimes, so there's not much sense in worrying about the value of the gem either way.

Are any gems "worth it"? That's between you and your wallet. It's an entirely superficial item, serving no practical purpose. To paraphrase a modern American philosopher, you can get married with paper rings. The ring is a symbol of your commitment, and as long as your fiancee enjoys wearing it everyday, don't stress about what other people will think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't concern myself about a lab diamond being too perfect. I have never met anyone that pulled out a loupe in the restaurant to check. That's between me and the jeweler.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You're right, but moisannite can be distinguished without a loupe by a colorful flash. But also anyone knowledgeable enough to spot that at a distance probably does not have the same prejudices against lab-made diamonds. I mean, unless they work for Debeers.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

IMO moissanite is a better idea, looks nicer, fuck debeers. Check out your partners existing jewellery for ideas, see if they tend to prefer gold colour metal or silver coloured

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lab diamonds are "fake" diamonds. Artificial and natural diamonds only differ in their level of human suffering and exploitation, with natural diamonds being higher in both.

Band metal depends on taste and costs. Platinum is the most expensive and best IMO, gold is kind of out of style(does she wear gold rings?), white gold is budget platinum, silver is cheap platinum that tarnishes.

Get a lab diamond with both your birth stones flanking it. For the band, I would go with white gold unless she wears gold rings a lot or you can afford platinum.

Also, she wants an expensive ring regardless of what she told you. She wants a giant rock on her finger when she shows it off, but should be absolutely ecstatic for anything you get. Talk to her married friends' husbands and don't get a bigger diamond than they got if you want to be a bro.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you can, look into local jewelers who can craft you something handmade with ethically sourced stones. I’m in Seattle and we have Valerie Madison who does great engagement sets and Everling Jewelry who uses recycled metals. A local artist will be able to recommend something within your budget, and your SO can and should be involved, as another poster mentioned.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (5 children)

My wife and I picked out her ring together. She has to wear it all the time. I think she should have say in the matter. Ask your partner to help you pick one out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Whenever I see questions like this, I know there are going to be a lot of answers about how bad this or that jewelry is, or how traditional rings are evil or a waste of money, or whatever. Luckily I don’t see any anti-marriage replies yet. In any case it’s a good idea to not preemptively use logic and morals to override what your future wife will want and feel.

But this is the right answer. I think if you’re going to get married, it’s good to be at a point in your relationship where you’re talking about these things and you can just choose ring together, or at least discuss if she wants you to be the one who selects it, or if she doesn’t want diamonds, or how much to spend, and whatever else. You should be as confident in choosing a ring you know she’ll like as you are in marrying the person. The best way to do that is to communicate and do it together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Shouldn't the proposal be a surprise? I was thinking the ring as well?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Hi! The proposal itself should be a surprise, but the fact you are proposing should not. You and your partner should discuss marriage and be on the same page on what you want from the relationship before you take that step.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The proposal can still be a surprise, just think of a way to do it where going ring shopping together is the big surprise, rather than the ring itself (if they have a good sense of humour, maybe use a gummy ring or a mood ring, something really silly as a stand in, otherwise maybe a ring shaped "coupon"? Or some other symbolic token that would hold meaning to just the two of you?).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

[not OP] I thought about a ring pop. I ended up making a paper ring and quoting Taylor Swift. "I like shiny things but I'd marry you with paper rings". A normal durable ring followed, but she got to pick it out. As stated above, shevs the one wearing it all the time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That's a perfect example of what I meant, it's cute and personal to your relationship, and leaves the other person room to choose something they're comfortable with.

Personally I think the ring should be the least important part of a proposal (though I say this as someone who is not interested in getting one, and who also hates wearing rings lol)..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Depends on the individual, some want it as a surprise, some aren't as concerned about the surprise.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Same. We made it a date and went downtown to a pawn shop to pick out rings. It's honestly a great way to find fun rings at not-horrendous prices

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

This, it ruins the surprise a bit but also ensures you'll hear a "yes"

Edit: also I went with a brilliant earth fake diamond ring, but you could save $ and go for moissanite

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

You can always also get a cheaper sentimental ring and go out ring shopping together for the official one.

That way you keep the surprise and she gets the ring she wants, plus another ring and a nice memory.

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