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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31072292

Summary:

I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.

I didn't go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.

One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

I wonder if the users who champion AI crap ask ChatGPT how to respond to critics?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago

YDI. I'm sick and tired of you damn .world shitlibs thinking you own the fediverse and everyone has to follow your rules. And when some corner of it doesn't, you come unhinged and resort to bigotry and harassment.

You lot are literally some of the absolute worst examples of humanity on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

Hmm...this repost is really making me regret softening my stance in the original thread yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Upvotes and downvotes aren't a "I like/dislike this" button, they're meant to highlight comments that are contributing positively and constructively to the discussion, showcase insightful comments, or to filter out irrelevant content.

YDI for misusing the buttons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

YDI. [email protected] is cringe. Let people enjoy things

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

mm yes under 1 day old account

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

we all gotta start somewhere

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

you're from an instance with an admin who panders to transphobes. that's way more suspicious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Blahaj.zone, a reference to Blåhaj, the transgender community official mascot, is a place where a transphobic admin hides out?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

Ada has done more to harm the trans community on Lemmy than anyone else. She’s a disgrace, a shitty admin, and an enabler of transphobic harassment who has protected people who repeatedly told trans women that they should kill themselves.

So yeah, you fucking read me right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Blahaj panders to transphobes‽

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sounds like they got banned for gatekeeping, from what I can tell @[email protected] is very hostile towards any forms of transphobia (including gatekeeping and apologia), and rightfully so. Those things hurt the trans community and the people in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

I'm afraid your thought process is a bit unclear with this one. What're you referring to???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The entitlement is running strong in those anti-GenAI evangelists, thinking they can just wander into someones home turf and behave like shit, and then complain if there are consequences. YDI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To be fair, the typical defenses of that technology are the most maddeningly empty headed shit I've ever read, including conversations with real life fascists and work with people deep into senility.

Listening to enough of them has genuinely given me a substantial vein of anti human 'most of this is just unrefrigerated meat, there is no spark of intellect, no consviousness, no beauty to be found here' type thought.

I wouldn't go into '/stable diffusion fruit' to throw a fit about it, but my first instinct when someone says that tech is good is just straight up assuming, whether its on silicon or meat; the thing im talking to is not a person in any way that matters to me.

Im occasionally wrong, and have to adjust course, but it has become an unsettling oft confirmed default which i very much resent.

I just really want to emphasize here:

this technology is often defended with a stupidity so profound and so stubborn that it has broken the last shreds of my love for humanity, a love for humanity that survived being thrown away onto the street like trash as a child, no small amount of rape abuse life unhoused and tending to those who had suffered so much worse than I. In its place that stupidity has awakened a creeping suspicion that there never was such a thing as 'humanity', and I'm utterly alone in a howling void.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I might be able to give you another perspective.

This technology is the first time that humankind has ever been able to create an interactive snapshot of human culture. Everything thats been written, scanned, drawn has made their mark on those models, and it gives you glimpses in what else there might be in the human cultural space. It's not intelligence, but it's distilled human culture.

I am very critical about the fact that this technology is mainly in the hands of corporations that want to use it as a cost cutting tool. I am also not a fan that GenAI is pushed into everything just to get sweet investor money. I am far less alarmed about the productivity increases themselves, or about copyrights which are normally only wielded as a weapon by the rich.

The power consumption argument doesn't even apply here - the generation of those images does not cost more energy than playing a computer game for 2 minutes, is often done on consumer grade hardware (like the one running here now while i type this), and the training of the models is not necessarily very power hungry if done smart (deepseek used a fraction of the power that GPT4o needed). Also, with the massive expansion of solar power generation (we're at the point where the price starts becoming negative at peak solar output) the power itself starts becoming a non-factor.

Copyrights themselves are a clusterfuck, which is an statement that many artists would agree with. I personally wish for the following (copied from the vote-thread regarding the rule we're discussing):

I would make a case for creation of datasets by a international institution like the UNESCO. The used data would be representative for world culture, and creation of the datasets would have to be sponsored by whoever wants to create models out of it, so that licencing fees can be paid to creators. If you wanted to make your mark on global culture, you would have an incentive to offer training data to UNESCO.

I hope i could give you a bit hope in humanity back - there are still idealistic people out there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Again, its not even the technology, its the typical advocate of it. Its the fuckers who defend it as everything it's not, against all evidence.

I'm aware it can be a neat little toy. It even has niche uses in a lab. Not worth the perfect sociological attack vector it seems to be. Trying to convince that it's not your friend, doesn't love you, and isn't making art, and the kind of pushback i get from that, is the real black pill here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe don't assume all people who support or are interested in a certain thing are the exact same people would be a nice start.

I often wonder about antiAI opinions such as "it isn't making art" what differentiates art to you? When it genuinely does create things that are not already in existence, how do you square that circle?

When people say LLMs are just fancy autocomplete, and I ask it to check an entire nodered flow for logic issues and it points out valid and interesting things I overlooked when designing it, how exactly do you determine that's autocomplete? Because I've used autocomplete or intellisense or whatever and this is leaps and bounds beyond those capabilities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I said 'i find im wrong sometimes'

But this reads like 'not all men' so im gonna spare myself the rest of your comment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm attempting good faith discussion on something I find interesting, but you do you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

I told you how arguing about this with enthusiasts who don't know what the fuck they're talking about has effected me, and you're still trying to tell me how your cool toy is actually magic tho.

You're "not all men"ing me about my problem with people who "not all men" about their fucking favorite toy. Not even the first in this thread to do it.

That's like three layers of the oblivious piece of shit version of, like, reverse FLN recursion; a kind of active anti-consciousness.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago

You claim this is about how the technology is defended, and we both gave you pretty good arguments, i didn't see any from you yet except neboluos accusations and a pretty uncalled for "not all men" quip. I was hoping for civil discourse here and that you can see that not everyone who uses this technology is a accelerationist crypto tech bro, and i only see one person here behaving like the thing you want to criticize - not open to arguments, passive-aggressive, resorting to ad hominem.

Maybe don't talk to people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about if they trigger you so much, but for sure don't use the same measure if you are talking with people who know what the fuck they are talking about, that doesn't suit you.

Read the thread again. Take a good look in the mirror. Your behavior here is out of line, and you know it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not I just want you to actually explain your position instead of hand waiving away large swaths of people as idiots, but if you're just going to grandstand I don't really see a point and we should just stop here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't owe you shit though.

If you're actually curious, and don't just want to harass me about it, there are ways you could find out without bugging me, which i said in pretty strong terms i dont love to discuss. Simple, easy ways. Really really strong terms.

But this isn't even about the technology itself. This is about the scum who defend it. Its the 'rick and morty' of computers.

This is about you, and your recursive piece-of-shit-ness.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

There's 2 people here but only one behaving like scum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

~~PTB. If OOP went to that sub and started mass downvoting it would be one thing, but it looks like they were banned for actions on a completely different sub? That's pretty unhinged, broski.~~

Judgement redacted due to special circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ThIs is the sort of abuse the mod is getting, simply for moderating a genAI community. And it's not the first time. That's why there's a zero tolerance policy in those communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] would you be able to investigate this user and potentially permaban them for transphobia, trolling and impersonation of another instance's moderator?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

The MysticMushroom impersonation account has been permabanned. I just re-banned with content removal to clean up some of the comments that were still up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

🤔

Alright I'll make an exception here. These dudes freaks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I banned you and I banned that dipshit who posted on Fuck_AI and I have no regrets. You are awful people and your behavior is harmful to this community. YDM. If lemmy.dbzer0.com wasn't as lenient as it is you'd have instance bans from here as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can you unban me from your AI slop communities and apparently Europe ?? so I can Block the communities so they don't show up in the All feed? Apparently that option goes away with a Ban so I still have to see your slop and a community I can no longer participate in.

I promise not to 'systemically downvote' those communities first, whatever the fuck that means.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can absolutely block communities when you are banned from them, this is one of the most sad and pathetic excuses to be unbanned I've ever heard, request denied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

denial stage

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gotta love how now db0 is under the ire of .world because have our own rules and way of doing things.

Also that one weird alt account claiming to be you and oddly talking about pigs is fucking weird.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What, you don't love people bitching that they can't walk into special interest communities and break their rules?

I bet you don't like dummies in the comments trying to get the instances to defederate either, and that's ableism or something.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I know! It's such a shame that people can't just walk into spaces and break all rules. Don't they know we have freeze peaches?!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah those people are some of the most sad and pathetic trolls imaginable.

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