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If your IP (and possible your browser) looks "suspicious" or has been used by other users before, you need to add additional information for registration on gitlab.com, which includes your mobile phone number and possibly credit card information. Since it is not possible to contribute or even report issues on open source projects without doing so, I do not think any open source project should use this service until they change that.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Discourse, Git* and more really need federated search.

It is already hard getting Contributors for projects, even more if you are on some random selfhosted server that nobody finds and everyone needs to create a new account for.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Maybe it's just me, but I never liked GitLab in the first place. The UI is just awful to me. Searching through issues, before posting a new one, is just a pita.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I last used it seriously like 7 or 8 years ago and it was fine. I put it on par with GitHub at the time. The ability to self host for free without too much trouble also really affected my position on it.

I haven't really enjoyed the few times I've had to use it in the last couple of years, though.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

This is wild 💀

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No worries, gitlab is a trash Ruby on rails app anyway 😹

JK I do love gitlab, sad to see the corporate takeover. What features dont you get with the foss version? Can't figure it out amongst the marketing cruft. Seems like it would be relatively easy to build another hosted gitlab provider.

So why does gulab need to kyc anyway? And if it's a legal requirement, won't GitHub do the same?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is KYC a thing outside finance?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Like others, I had an account before this was implemented. I have a couple projects on there, also mirrored to self hosted gitea. Have had people refuse/unable to contribute to the gitlab project due to the kyc requirement, so I'm thinking I will migrate to codeberg soon.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Drew DeVault created https://sourcehut.org/, which may be worth considering.

Also @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what everyone is on about.
Host your own git repo. It's trivial and built into git and you make every decision about it from the ground up.
For example you don't need to worry about registrations or what country it's hosted in because the country it's hosted in is your hard drive (or your company's server rack).
Then use whatever front-end you want and point it at that private repo.
It's only mildly more fiddly to set up and grant access, but it sure doesn't ask you for a credit card and it sure doesn't get scraped to train LLMs (unless you make it internet-facing and don't protect it).
If you want to stay close to the core experience but still have a decent interface, check out (heh) gitweb and git daemon. Though I wouldn't mind if gitweb had some of the fancier features, like the "download as zip"/"git clone path/to/branch copy-to-clipboard" buttons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It is not trivial to host a git forge with modern features that allows easy collaboration between anonymous users all over the world.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I would LOVE to switch to codeberg for work, but my work requires that all data be hosted in the US, so I recently pitched GitLab as an alternative to GitHub, even though it's not perfect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Wait. Wtf does it need to be US specifically? So the goverment has full access to the data or what?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

For work gitlab is fine, I'm sure your company can get the accounts verified for example. At least it's not microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's your experience like with this? I'm seriously considering Gitlab & Github alternative.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Codeberg the community is very nice with strong focus on the right to privacy and free software, which I feel reflects itself especially in a lot of copylefted projects on the service.

Codeberg the collaboration platform is in my epxerience by the simple fact of critical mass quite a bit less 'collaborative' for many projects. There's a couple projects with tight communities, and a lot of single dev projects with maybe a drive-by PR.

Codeberg the software runs on Gitea (/Forgejo) which is wonderful software - slim, simple enough to get everything done without being in the way.

There's efforts to open up the gitea/forgejo forges to federation, which would be a very neat way to fix the collaboration issue and is - in my view - the way forward for open, decentralized collaborative software creation. It's still quite a ways off (especially from bring mature enough to be used day-to-day) but when it gets there platforms like codeberg will be the first to adopt it and to also benefit massively from it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If you want people to contribute to your project, Github is by far the best. If you're off Github, it reduces your visibility by a lot.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can host your project anywhere you want, setup mirroring to github and drop a link in its description. So you'll have github visibility and won't depend on github. Addiitional repo backup is a bonus.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Even just for reporting issues, anyone who is capable of identifying a bug is likely to have a GitHub account. Not so for Gitlab or others.

Then you've got seamless integration with Vscode as a bonus, it's more like why would you not use GitHub unless you have a specific problem with them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Even just for reporting issues, anyone who is capable of identifying a bug is likely to have a GitHub account. Not so for Gitlab or others.

If you really want to, you can add a "log in with Github" button to your Gitlab server: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/integration/github.html

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I was asked to report bugs by people without github account several times, so you are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then you’ve got seamless integration with Vscode as a bonus, it’s more like why would you not use GitHub unless you have a specific problem with them.

Does GitHub still only permit one account? I remember looking into it awhile back and not wanting to get things mixed up between personal/professional arrangements and the one account policy put me off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

congratulations then, it supports multiple accounts, haven't used it yet though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I stopped since they put a broken cloudflare config in front of it that puts me in an infinite loop so I can't ever log in

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I created a GitLab account long before they implemented this, but never used it. Went to post an issue related to self-hosted GitLab on their issue tracker, and it told me my account was banned. I wrote an email to support and they essentially said "an automated system identified your account as a bot and banned you during an account clean up some years ago to cut back on malicious users". I informed them that this was not at all reasonable, as I've never even posted anything on any GitLab account, and that I would be advising my organization to never pay for any GitLab product or service unless legal writes up the contract terms, because I have no faith in them as a vendor.

Seriously, fuck GitLab. And if anyone from that org wants to discuss this with me, they can pipe their email to /dev/null

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stop telling me what to do! You're not my mom.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Don't be so sure about that my son

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