I barely just got to watch the first season on Amazon Video as a Prime member. Someday Iβm hoping the rest of the seasons will be included in Prime, because Iβm not subscribing to Paramount.
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My objection is that this will cap LD at five seasons. It's seven for a trek series dammit.
Eh 5 seasons these days is like two seasons of traditional Star Trek.
There's less filler on the shorter seasons. Maybe 1.6 seasons?
i love both shows but i don't think they're really comparable. LD is a very very very good spinoff but it can't be the tentpole Trek series, whereas SNW was more or less engineered to be that for this generation
I agree. Lower Decks is a great show in it's own rights and I know lots of people who like it without any previous experience in Star Trek, but it is very much a love letter to the series.
SNW is an outstanding show for first timers and a younger crowd. In a lot of ways, I kind of wish I could experience Trek with SNW as my first show.
whereas Firefly merely had a fanatical (ποΈ) fan base
Whereas if Fox hadn't royally screwed up Firefly's production and release, it would easily have been "popular and successful". Feels like apples and oranges to me.
However, I do agree that Lower Decks is a great show and cancellation makes little sense to me as well. But Strange New Worlds also is a great show, including the artistic license (which I'll be the one to say "Subspace Rhapsody" was amazing, I don't care what anyone says) and I'm happy it is continuing.
I just thought Subspace Rhapsody was a bit boring, with too much "Look, it's this character, but singing!" and not enough actual Star Trek plot. When we only get 10 episodes a season, the plot of each one is very important, imo.
Other than that, I've mostly loved Strange New Worlds. The Lower Decks crossover especially. I love grapplers.
I haven't seen strange new worlds, but there's an entire episode in voyager dedicated to the doctor singing. Not my favorite episode, but I didn't hate it either.
I liked that one, because it was an intense personal story for the Doctor. The SNW episode was just shallow
πΆ "Hail the Klingons, Uhura!" πΆ
Hail!
I'm going to miss LD, but I'd rather a show go out strong than with a whimper.
I agree. I just fell like there were still places they could have gone with it. Apparently, even with promotions. Getting a half pip, or even a full one, doesn't necessarily automatically get you out of lower decks... and how fast do promotions come? Once every year or two - no faster, certainly.
And if we can have shows about the bridge crew, and shows about lower decks, we could certainly have shows about the in-between strata. An (original) Enterprise class had a crew of CA 400 people. Most of this didn't spend any time on the bridge; bridge crew was, what, 3 dozen people, max? The Ceritos is a California class; I've seen estimates of a crew compliment of 160. If we assume a max of 40 bridge crew (on rotation, with alternates), that leaves 120 people in other categories. Plenty of room for new assignments, duties, experiences; hell, except for re-assignments to other ships, they could drag the show out indefinitely. The bridge crew characters would take the most attrition.
900% agree. And it's not like I could switch and watch The Orville instead for some occasionally lighthearted / funny / wholesome episodes. I think it's also not clear if they return at some point.
Paramount has been trying to get bought out by Skydance, so they've been cutting costs to make themselves look more attractive. They probably believe that the long term earning potential of the Star Trek property is in the SNW brand and not LD. I personally suspect that when SNW is over we'll see a rebooted TOS using the lore foundation SNW has laid. (Also I could be misremembering, but wasn't Balance of Terror supposed to have been the first time the Federation interacted with the Romulans in a long time? That would also be a contradiction created by SNW.)
I think Lower Decks was always limited in how long it could run. They couldn't all be Harry Kim. They eventually will rank up. I think spin offs are the natural next step, so I really hope Paramount is onboard.
I agree. LD is great, but it's also feeling like the story is nearing a logical endpoint. The main cast has already ranked up and learned to deal with their issues. It's only a matter of time before they're split up and I'd rather have the show deal with that directly and end conclusively while it's still a great show, than to last another 10 seasons.
Star Fleet Academy show, but animated like Lower Decks!
spin offs
Now there's an excellent idea!
Funny enough, I think I liked LD because it felt closer in tone to 90s trek than modern trek. Like sure, those were serious shows, but in between the drama there was some pretty natural feeling levity based on character interactions, slice of life stuff, etc. Stuff that doesnβt take you out of the story, but gives you a breather and makes you care more about the characters when serious stuff does happen. Most of modern Trek feels like Marvel movies: End of the world level stakes and melodrama all the time, but constantly undercut with self-aware quips to keep things from ever being too sincere.
LD feels like a return to what I liked about those earlier shows: See the lives of some interesting characters in an interesting setting going on adventures. Itβs not perfect and itβs not what Iβd want to see entirely replace those old kinds of shows, but it stands in pretty stark contrast to the other new stuff.
100%. And the funny episodes feel forced. Like, everyone remembers the Trouble with Tribbles episode for the Tribbles, but they were almost a side story; there was an entire main plot revolving around the Klingons.
I agree. Maybe it's the audiences, maybe it's the studios, but your Marvel simile is apt.
Please, can't we have just a little emacs/vim war?! :-P
Nvm, I will preemptively win it here:
For anyone interested in its history:
...pico / nano
Oh so you want to play it like that then!? (/s)
Pic didn't load but something something emacs whore. Oh yes, i know the ancient texts my son.
Okay then a different one:
Jim from the office, watching and smiling as people argue over vim vs. emacs.
He knows the truth - that you should use whatever you want and enjoy the most:-).
M-x insert-gene
You could just put "(with vim bindings)" after everything, including EMACS. I have them on in Firefox.
Good old xkcd - I knew this would show up, e eventually:-), though the concept has since been simplified:
Though I really like the look of this one:
And I'm not so sure about this one but there's a funny extension to programming:
Long live the wars - bc it means that we have so many great options to choose from!:-)
What I read is that the writers are sad it's ending so soon, they wanted to go for longer, but they are setting things up to be open for possible spin-offs, so maybe we'll get something new in the future in the same vein.
I agree that its wild paramount is canceling a successful, and very cheap to produce show, their entire business model as of late seems to be shooting themselves in the foot and then wondering why they keep losing blood.
Edit: clearly vim.
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