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Reminding everyone that the bill contains a change to the constitution and the balance of powers between the branches of government.
If this passes the executive branch can no longer be bound by the judicial.
It's a dictatorship the second the house passes this, then the only way Trump will ever leave office is when he dies.
Someone thinks they should have backed the Libertarian Party
The new Ross Perot!
Do it you coward
If Trump deports Musk im getting a MAGA hat lol
Honestly I'm finding their falling outs funnier each time it's happened. What is this, number 3?
No no, please, do a Nader, be a Bull Moose.
This'll be great!
He'd draw what, a 90/10, 80/20 split of Rep to Dem voters, as well as the truly brain dead of the independents?
Please Musk.
Absolutely do this thing that if it worked would guarantee your failure, and would make it much easier to radicalize the Dem party after their most corporate of corporate donors leave them for you.
Don't back out! This isn't Twitter again, put your back into it!
I’ll join, I’ll still vote for sane social democratic candidates or the least of all evils, but I’ll join and pretend to prop up the numbers!
Hopefully he splits the Republican party and ensures a Democratic majority everywhere.
Do it! Do it! Do it!
It is too late Elon you enabled and funded this nonsense.
How many facist parties US needs?
Smells like the fascists want a new party.
No no, it's better than that, SOME of the fascists want a new party. I like those odds.
Kayfabe nonsense or a narcissistic delusion, either way it's an absurd fantasy
Fuck that guy
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We all gave that word a pass when we accepted it as part of the title of that one tv show.
Shits already broke.
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BREAKING: I just took a successful and satisfying shit.
BREAKING: I just took a rather unsuccessful half shit that was very unsatisfying and will have to try again later.
Let's be clear about what is upsetting Musk. He is in favour of the tax cuts to the rich. He just thinks that the poor should SUFFER MORE to make the tax cuts happen. He wants to keep all of the stuff that will benefit him, and cut all the stuff that keeps everyday Americans alive. Please don't spin this as some kind of redemption arc for Musk. If anything, he upset that Trump isn't even shittier.
I wonder why he's not just joining the Libertarians.
You know, I heard a rumor that AOC should run for president as an independent party, because she'd never make it through the Democratic primaries, but that would be a terrible idea, because it would split the party. Let's say 50% of the country is Democratic and 50% is Republican; if the Democratic vote gets split 25% for the Democrat candidate and 25% for AOC, but the Republican vote stays 50% for their candidate, then the Republicans win in a landslide. I have a feeling that this is why the two-party system is so ingrained into our politics.
But if the Republicans also split their party into MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans at the same time, then that election becomes somewhat balanced again, and probably closer to what the founding fathers actually intended. Granted, Elon isn't calling for a new party for a presidential election, just to stop this bill, but still, it'd be interesting to see an election with four viable candidates rather than two.
independents are pressure candidates. she likely could run as an independent but it wouldnt actually be to become president. it would be for the Democratic party to buy her concession.
Look at what RFK Jr did. he left the race for a cabinet position and policy agreements.
She could use an independent presidential run to pull the dems back towards the left
Musk could have been a superhero. He could have just made EVs and not done a Nazi salute ... things would probably be fine.
No. He had to tamper in politics and likely give Trump the win. Musk was too dumb to realize he would get thrown to the side the minute he said anything but "yes" to "Great Leader" ... now he is thrown to the side and is too dumb to realize it's over for him. He is hated on all sides.
He can kiss Trumps ass or fade in to obscurity. Those are his options.
Hell if he wasn’t at a rally for the orange dictator I would say he could make EVs and get away with a salute here and there.
Nazi salute....? You mean not called a man trying to help a bunch of kids trapped in a cave a pedophile, right? Or a thousand other insane things way before a fucking salute, right?
Not really. Musk was a snake oil salesman for years. The people who believed in him were foolish to do so, all of that long before his salute and his budget concerns. We should also remember that fascists don't have a long game. They really are as ridiculous as they appear. There was no possibility for Trump or Musk to maintain a positive image, except through brute force threats.
While it is true he has been crappy and not really that smart pretty much from the onset, the world would have been happy to continue perpetuating the myth of Musk as the real world Tony Stark.
People wanted that narrative, certain people profited immensely off the myth, and there wasn't much practical downside apart from it being really unjustified for these folks to get so rich, but we accept that downside constantly.
He still has immense personal wealth, and he can sway politics with these mountains of money . Time will tell.
Am I the only one here who predicts that Elon will jump out of the window soon?
Trump's great friend and inspiration has already sent his oligarchs flying for less.
It's likely
I honestly think he's still team Trump and always was, he just dropped the mask and is now trying desperately to put it back on to save his stock.
None of those people are on anyone else's team. They'll set up alliances where they can mutually profit, but the second any of those profits slip to one side, they're unceremoniously ousted.
He's always been team Elon, and team Elon also likes to be contrarian and 'edgy', so that aligned with being pro Trump. He also wants to ditch government spending and regulation, which aligns to a claimed GOP principle (though they love spending so it's a lie). So now he's faced with the reality that everyone else already knew, the Republicans spend like crazy, even less responsibly than Democrats.
He basically wants a party to represent the perspective of 'screw poor people' as it's one and only tenant.
Split the Republicans? Yes please
He should team up with Andrew Yang. Just a couple of rich boys, fighting against the system. Good times. /s