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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I switched all of my Windows systems over to Windows 10 LTSC a few months ago, and it's been a game-changer. I still get security updates, but no advertisements, bloat, or new "features." I believe it's supported until 2032.

After that, I'll probably switch my remaining systems over to Linux, but until then, it's not half bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm thinking about doing it too but with w11

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I haven't tried W11 LTSC. Even if you cut out the bloat, I just can't stand the interface. Hopefully 12 is better, but I'm not hopeful.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (14 children)

I just got a new laptop and was genuinely gonna try windows 11 and wsl for my coding needs. But in first boot, it demands internet to do updates. Ok, I connect to coffee shop wifi. Nope, won't do it because it can't handle the click through screen to accept wifi ToS. Fine. I take it home, where my Internet is great but has a glitch where it drops out for a few seconds now and then. Turns out that windows will literally cancel updating and demand I reconnect and restart for the kind of drop that I barely notice day to day. So I gave up, plugged in my ArchLinux thumb drive, and mkfs.ext4 before rsyncing my entire old computer to it

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 129 points 6 months ago (18 children)

At this point, I have lost count of the number of times that I've left my perfectly working Windows computer at the end of my work day, only to return to a completely broken computer that won't boot the next morning.

I find this to either be a lie or self inflicted. I manage a small fleet of a few hundred windows systems and all updates have been fine for years.

In the windows admin user groups there are more than a few that are deploying updates within 24hrs of release to thousands of servers and workstations and have not reported issues.

Lastly I think that tech bloggers say things like this to get clicks, so they can get ad revenue. Then they also tell you how to disable updates so they can get more clicks and ad revenue.

It’s disingenuous and probably harmful to be telling people to disable updates that lead them to be exposed to vulnerabilities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I can kind of feel the author on this. I'm in charge of a lot of "special projects" at work that basically come down to, "figure out a way to replicate this extremely expensive technology or software using low cost or free alternatives". It ends up being an unholy mix of programs and hardware that is held together with duct tape and super glue and any minor perturbation means something breaks.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

My two cents, I could say the same as the author. My Windows work laptop most of the times cannot wake up from sleep (you know, opening the lid after it's closed) so I have to force a restart. There's a 50% or less chance that Bluetooth and WiFi won't work at all (they won't be displayed on Windows, like it's not even a feature) after I turn the laptop on, so most of my pre-work morning is restarting the laptop until it's working as intended. It's the third laptop I got from them, they're different models but they're all HP, and they all had problems. The Macs and the same HP laptops running Linux have none of these issues.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I find this to either be a lie or self inflicted.

"I've never experienced what you describe, so it must be either imagined or your own fault."

I've seen this nonsense over and over again in communities of all kinds, most often in tech forums (where there are always a few participants suffering from a big-fish-little-pond effect). It's a very rude and foolish bit of human behavior.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not just me, many others.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I hate Windows for all the monetisation and privacy issues but I never really had problems with it killing my computer.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

I had a Windows 10 update fuck up my laptop for about 15 hours until it somehow magically unfucked itself and started working again once.

But thats about it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A future Linux enjoyer spotted

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (17 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's kind of disingenuous of you to proudly say, "I don't use the same version of Windows that this person likely does and I don't have the same issues that this person does so they must be full of shit".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There aren’t many versions of windows since 10 and 2016. They are all very similar now.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's the difference between the Home and Pro versions though. The things that generally break on the Home versions are all the things not generally enabled on a domain controlled Pro version. Thisbis more about Microsoft just being bad at small updates versus these giant roundup packages they like to ship.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

What things? Home just doesn’t have GPO as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

The interesting thing for me is that I own two different surface pro 7 tablets. I have one for work and one for home (now that work doesn't require me to bring my own device anymore). The work surface has windows 10 pro on it. My home one doesn't, The difference is very interesting. The IT team have disabled a lot of stuff on my work surface that I don't even have access to on my home unit. I don't often have bugs from updates breaking things at work. I do at home though which is enough for me to perhaps upgrade the windows key on my home unit someday. If I don't install linux first which is a possibility.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Microsoft is constantly experimenting with how far they can push users into a corner and get away with it. There might be a day when Microsoft caves and releases a Windows that is more like what we wanted, but I imagine it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. We have not yet seen the worst MS has to ~~offer~~ force upon us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

That's fine. I'll just stick with Windows 7 for the next 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Just look at how bad the car industry is now. Your car spies on EVERYTHING.

Windows can still get a lot worse before we begin to see an improvement.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There might be a day when Microsoft caves and releases a Windows that is more like what we wanted, but I imagine it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.

I thought that was going to be with Windows 10's forced updates and telemetry, but people just stopped caring. I'm pretty much assuming that'll be the same for the current batch of nonsense. I can't imagine how bad it would have to get for the general public to say "enough is enough".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Every bullshit move just creates more Linux users.

Best marketing Linux ever got lol

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Acceptance is the last stage of grief. You are ready to move on.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago

It's like when people in abusive relationships suddenly realize that their partner doesn't actually care about them, and everyone around them is like "Yeah, no shit. Fucking leave their ass."

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