See here's the thing, if you believe silly stuff and keep it to yourself, that's fine. People who believe in silly stuff never keep it to themselves though.
this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2024
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Nah dude flat earthers actually show up to the polls, unlike anon. Gotta start showing up anon!
Flat earthers generally vote for people who are hell-bent on erasing workers' rights. That's why I would be arguing.
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Anon has found the way of the masters
The problem is that flat-earthers aren't just that. They usually believe in all kinds of other kooky stuff as well, and some of those beliefs pose an active danger to society.
Exactly, the same mindset that takes you to “The entire geophysical establishment is wrong/lying about the shape of the Earth, so I’ll listen to this Youtube crank who says it’s a disc instead” will also lead you to things like “The entire medical establishment is wrong/lying about the effectiveness of masks & vaccines, so I’ll listen to this podcast crank hawking horse dewormer instead.”
There’s always an implied “them” hiding the conspiracy as well. It’s just a couple of short steps from flat earth to “jews will not replace us”.
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Normal day at the NASA factory
Anon wouldn't have gotten anywhere with that argument anyways. If your goal is to make them stop believing then you have to ask questions without seeming like you're leading him to a certain conclusion in any way.
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Eh nah. Pointless debate and argument is kek
At the wage-slave bit, I was hoping that anon would try to raise the coworker's class-consciousness.
In a sense, they are on the same side.
It's flat, we all are.
Weird that the OOP thinks it's "intellectual superiority" to simply have your facts straight.
well, it is. I mean, it's a low bar, but comparatively, yeah.
Like saying hygienic superiority is not being covered in feces. It is, but that shouldn't be the contest.
I shall remember this comparison and use it at the most inappropriate situation. Thank you.
This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.
remember that time you called health insurance "gambling", which is why you refuse to get any? (or support universal basic health care)
ah, good times.
I’m flattered that you spend so much time thinking about the things I’ve said.
I’m writing a book of my thoughts, I’ll let you know when I’m done.
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not as stupid as some of your comments elsewhere.
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We used to make fun of people like this. Humiliate them. Alas, no more. Everyone's opinion is now valuable.
I think that’s what the internet has done for us, it’s removed that sort “social immune system” that prevented crazy ideas from spreading. Before, if somebody had some crazy ideas, the most they could usually do was rant to people on the bus/subway, maybe make some pamphlets, or some other small-scale thing to spread the idea. At best you might find someone on AM radio broadcasting at weird hours. Individuals would get exposed to it, but would likely never pass it on, this contained crazy ideas and they rarely got traction to spread.
Now the internet comes along, and suddenly crazies are getting hooked up with impressionable people easier than ever before. Crazy ideas have an almost endless supply of rubes that will eat them right up. Our social immune system can’t protect society from all the insane things flying around at high speeds all over the place now. It’s intellectual chaos.
I mean the social immune system also prevented ideas like worker solidarity, gender equality, socioeconomic mobility, sexual freedom, etc. from spreading but I get your point. Opening Pandora's box let the crazies out as well as the AOC/Bernie and free Palestine crowds.
The problem being, at least for the moment, the crazy is winning
Humiliating people does not help them grow, study suggests
No, but it prevents other people from engaging with a topic to begin with
it's just as equally effective to break dumb beliefs like this as reasoning is, and both are far more effective than empathy, according to studies.
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It's not that their opinion is now valuable. We just figured out that Bullying doesn't work.
except that it does
Sure, bud.
To supress elements in a herd? Sure it does.
Healthy for the individual? Not so much.
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On the one hand, yeah. Worrying about stuff that you have barely any control over won't get you far. But on the other hand, that guy's vote counts as much as yours. And if he already believes such silly conspiracy theories as the flat earth theory, he will be easily swayed by whoever is the loudest contrarian.
the challenge isn't to let him enjoy life with his stupid ass conspiracy, it's to get him to realize for himself that he's been duped by both strangers on the internet and Conservative conspiracies. Deradicalizing and then radicalizing is hard as fuck
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