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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago

Maybe social media was not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If it is an official act, which would mean they would have to assassinate you in their function of being the president. In other words, they couldn't just kill their neighbors.

They could probably kill them as part of a celebration, I guess. Jk, I hope.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Does this mean the President can murder the SC members they don't like and replace them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

If he went to their homes and strangled them himself? Yes. If he ordered someone to do it? The laws and UCMJ apply to those people so no. There's this thing people keep forgetting about. The UCMJ isn't just guidelines. It's actual rules. And murder is still illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Even better, if you replace them with ones that will rule this was an error and the president only gets qualified immunity, you'll still be in the clear because you were acting on what you thought the law was.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

In capitalist America, the president shoots you

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's an Onion article, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The real question is, if you defend yourself with a gun is it considered self defence or just the assasination of the president?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Its like in that movie with convicted drug trafficker, Tim Allen, where if you kill Santa Clause you become Santa Claus. If you kill the president, even on accident, you become the president.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Instead of getting fat really fast, you get old.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I have seen this plot before... In a game from Japan where the president beats everyone up in a fucking giant mecha

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I need to rewatch that Dunkey video.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

To be fair, the VP did organize a coup against him.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Biden has the chance to do a big, big funny here.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He wont even condemn Israel to improve his ratings. At this point it seems that the democrats are trying to get trump elected.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not seeing a condemnation of Israel anywhere in there.

C'mon

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He said they need to „tone it down”…

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

What if democracy lost 12 years ago and they just pretended the Dems still existed?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If he relly believes democracy is at stake there is only one course of action left

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

So, the President is legally allowed to just kill anyone, but if anyone is resisting, even just saying “if you kill my uncle’s nephew’s father’s roommate and I will seek revenge”, it’s

18 U.S. Code § 1751 - “Presidential and Presidential staff assassination, kidnapping, and assault,” which covers attempts to kill or inflict harm on the President.

18 U.S. Code § 871 - “Threats against the President and successors to the Presidency,” which criminalizes threats to kill or harm the President.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How is this different than before?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

The SCOTUS interpretation is exactly the interpretation I was taught in school back in the 90's/2000's.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

They stopped pretending.

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[–] [email protected] 151 points 4 months ago (3 children)

trump said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose any votes. this all seems like it's going according to plan.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

The boys did this last season. Its complete satire but its like holding a mirror to reality at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Seems like he's not the only one who can do this now

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk Intensifies.

How long until the President is also the sitting CEO of Raytheon or Blackwater?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So... Same as it's been since the war on terror began in 2001?

Oh, now they can assassinate white people in first world countries, not just drop bombs on weddings in mideast countries. I see. Totally makes all the difference.

(I am feeling very cynical here haha, I get this is a big significant legal precedent for the USA but yeah)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This was kind of my response. Everyone is thinking of Trump's shit, I was wondering about Al Awlaki. Assassinate a 16yo American citizen at a child's birthday party in Yemen? Np.

What result did we expect except some weird middle ground that allows the war on terror and a shitload of other extra-judicial killings with no proper declaration of war? They're codifying immunity that was already assumed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for being a far better person than I, in that you actually give enough of a fuck to remember at least one specific, named person who was murdered in the way I was described.

This is not sarcasm it's a genuine emotional appreciation. I don't have it in me to remember, since all the shit news day in and day out just all blurs together and is too much for me to cope with if I tried to remember, but I'm glad someone is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Two. The Seals got his little sister.

It does blur. I used to watch all the videos of police murders and try to remember the names. I also used to hope we would make progress.

I think this ruling was the most likely outcome, but I was kinda wishing we'd get every ex-president, except maybe Jimmy Carter, in front of a firing squad.

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