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If inciting an insurrection towards their own government is an action without legal repercussions, I don't see how the law would be less lenient about straight up firing a gun at an opponent.

I by no means want any party to resolve to violent tactics. So even though I play with the thought, I really don't want anything like it to happen. I am just curious if it's actually the case that a sitting president has now effectively a licence to kill.

What am I missing?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Answer: they would react differently if it were Biden versus Trump who did it. The SCOTUS would find a way to let Trump off while making Biden pay.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

The immunity only applies to Republican presidents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump could bring his own gun and shoot him and the Court would still call it official.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

When you own the people that make the laws. You are above the law. So yes. Trump could 100% get away with it. One of the few things he's said that wasn't a lie.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It has to be an official act within the scope of the executive branch. So he couldn't just bring a gun and shot him, however he could direct the justice department to focus on domestic terrorism and cite Trump's threats for political retribution as a terroristic threat and have him and every other Republican who publicly agreed with him disappeared.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Trump is arguing that his twitter was "official communications", and thus can't be used in court. This means that the 34 felony convictions might go away now.

But the truth is that the Supreme Court didn't say that every "official act" was immune from consequences. The more nuanced reading is that any act that the Court declares official is immune from consequences.

The Conservatives on the Court declared the president King, but only when they feel like it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Can we book this in for 10:30 tomorrow?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It would make for a great example of everything that's wrong with it. I want it to happen. It'd halt a lot of the fascist push along with getting them to make their own counterarguments.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of discussion on Lemmy forgets that a very large number of people actually support that Piece of Shit Donald Trump. Tens of Millions. Some of them are begging for a civil war. Killing Trump publicly would be a spark to a great flame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

America is already doomed anyway. Trump is going to win because biden is an unlikable person and nobody really feels inspired to vote for him. and somehow Trump is more popular.

when trump gets elected, america is going to hell in a handbasket. trump will be god-emperor until he croaks, then the next crazy in line will take over. It's time to start preparations to abandon ship.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Bring his own gun? Unofficial act. Have the DOJ black bag his opponent and rendition him to a CIA camp in Saudi Arabia? Official act and immune.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You just need to pull the "it was in the best interest of the United States" card and it's an official act.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It’s not currently in the best interest.

IF Trump wins the election then it would be in the best interests of the US. It would be akin to a judge throwing out a juries verdict because the jury clearly made the wrong decision.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well then why hasn't he done it.. I can't think of something of a more positive interest than to dump trump down a hole.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

because biden (and the democratic party in general) are a bunch of cowards who think that they will prevail simply by taking the high road. Fascism was never defeated by strongly worded speeches or political actions, it always took blood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You are right. They really live in a fantasy land.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Saudi Arabia bad idea, Trump has allies in that nation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So does Biden. The two parties are much closer than they make it seem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden didn't sell classified documents to the Saudis. The Saudis didn't purchase an entire floor in Biden Tower.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I didn't say he did. I just said he has allies in Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I think the Secret Service detail assigned to Trump might have a problem with that. I think Biden killing Trump or canceling the election would be a gift to the Republicans that they don't need. One can dream though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pardon my ignorance but did the court say that inciting an insurection is an official act?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

No, but the court says you can't question the president's motive when they say it was an official act.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden has a moral compass, rusty as it may be. Trump has an AMORAL compass, all bright n shiny forever pointing at himself

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

He doesn’t even have to shoot anyone. Whoever interferes with an official act is clearly committing treason and can be sent to Gulag

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