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Police in Japan have sent papers to prosecutors concerning a woman under suspicion of violating the Road Traffic Act for allegedly riding an "electric suitcase" on a sidewalk without a license.

The police say this is the first time someone has been identified for an alleged traffic offense involving such ridable luggage in Japan.

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Electric suitcases can move at a maximum of 13 kilometers per hour, and are legally in the same category as small motorcycles.

But they are not allowed on public roads in Japan as they do not meet standards for brakes and blinkers set by the Road Transport Vehicle Act.

The woman is reportedly denying the charges saying during voluntary questioning that she was not aware that the suitcase is a vehicle that requires a driver's license.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m kind of shocked “I didn’t know it was illegal when I admitted to doing it.” Is a valid defense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Strictly speaking in most countries, it isnt. But an argument can be made that "the vast majority wouldnt be aware that this was against the law" Prosecutors can always elect not to file any charges or lay fines, the courts can always elect to be lenient and not impose any penalty especially when theres any lack of intent or harm. If she had knocked someone down riding it, that would be a different story.

The law will not reference ridable electric suitcases specifically but "motorised ridable vehicles caipable of speeds in excess of 10km/h or with a rated power of more than 500W" (for example) to prevent people from saying "Its not a motorcycle officer, you can clearly see its a suitcase"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Do you know every law in your country / state / province? Honestly you're going to be ignorant of some law, somewhere, especially laws you've never heard of or thought of as a concept.

This is part of what mens rea was supposed to address, but I guess everyone likes to prosecute for the sake of being punitive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

We're yet to see if it's a good one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

"I'm a massive idiot" is a defence strategy one could deploy (and one I'm keeping in my back pocket just in case) but it may not be a good one.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Glad to see that there aren't any trolls here as of yet spreading misinformation about Japan

50 Cent Party Troll Repellant:

六四

1989 Tienanmen Square Massacre

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least spell Tiananmen correctly when you're being racist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not being racist at all, that text is the only way to keep 50 cent Party trolls away and from spreading misinformation

And I'm kind of angry that you'd suggest that because being racist goes against my morals and core beleifs and to group me in with those fucking bigots who would destroy a country and take away others humans rights

They are a real thing, maybe read up on them

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

https://web.archive.org/web/20240628064913/https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fjapan%2Fcomments%2F79ex2q%2Fwhy_is_every_thread_on_front_page_reddit_about%2F

On this archived reddit thread:

Where have you been? They are the 50 Cent Army (womao dang), a ten million Chinese people who earn "50 cents" by commenting a positive message about Chinese Communist Party while writing shits about the US and Japan. Being able to write in English is a bonus, and writing in Japanese is even more.

That's pretty damn interesting. I saw one poster in the brown hair thread copy / paste the same negative statement about Japan at least ten times. Only to later be all deleted.

Some Japanese internet users had discovered the repellent for these 50 cent armies, by randomly inserting the words "Tienanmen Square Massacre" in the replies, and Chinese will delete their comments or never come back, since they were afraid that the communist supervisors don't want them to get involved with its dark truth (the massacre apparently "didn't happen" in its official history), and might terminate them from the jobs...

Not sure if it works with Arabic numerals "64", but various people trolling these shills report that just posting "六四" for June 4th, the day of the Tienanmen Square Massacre is enough to send them running.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240628064507/https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fjapanlife%2Fcomments%2F1ciwpip%2Fwidespread_outdated_misinformation_about_japan%2F

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They should make a remake of The Exorcist but instead of pazuzu, the girl is possessed by a tankie

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Now that's scary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Would love to see that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

To keep trolls off this post

I'm not being racist like the other user claimed but that is the only text that works because those kind of trolls won't get involved because they don't like the higher ups seeing them see that

https://web.archive.org/web/20240628064913/https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fjapan%2Fcomments%2F79ex2q%2Fwhy_is_every_thread_on_front_page_reddit_about%2F

On this archived reddit thread:

Where have you been? They are the 50 Cent Army (womao dang), a ten million Chinese people who earn "50 cents" by commenting a positive message about Chinese Communist Party while writing shits about the US and Japan. Being able to write in English is a bonus, and writing in Japanese is even more.

That's pretty damn interesting. I saw one poster in the brown hair thread copy / paste the same negative statement about Japan at least ten times. Only to later be all deleted.

Some Japanese internet users had discovered the repellent for these 50 cent armies, by randomly inserting the words "Tienanmen Square Massacre" in the replies, and Chinese will delete their comments or never come back, since they were afraid that the communist supervisors don't want them to get involved with its dark truth (the massacre apparently "didn't happen" in its official history), and might terminate them from the jobs...

Not sure if it works with Arabic numerals "64", but various people trolling these shills report that just posting "六四" for June 4th, the day of the Tienanmen Square Massacre is enough to send them running.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240628064507/https%3A%2F%2Fold.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fjapanlife%2Fcomments%2F1ciwpip%2Fwidespread_outdated_misinformation_about_japan%2F

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I read the link, I still don't see the relevance to a post about a Japanese woman arrested for driving a suitcase. It's not the kind of topic to attract trolls. We sometimes get some Hexbear shenanigans in political posts but you can't bang that in every thread unless you are going to claim this is Magic Elephant Dust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It absolutely is racist to both think the phrase "Tiananmen square massacre" is some magic to keep the Chinese away and to bring it up on a post about something that happened in Japan to a Japanese person by the Japanese government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And I don't hate the Chinese people, I hate its government and the shit it does to them and would absolutely like the government to go away

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago

Like I said I'm not being racist but that is the only thing that works to keep trolls away

Stop grouping me in with fucking bigots who take away human rights of others and would kill you just for not being white

If those fuckers had their way I wouldn't be alive right now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

You need a license to drive your luggage on the sidewalk in Japan? Lame.