Biden was tired from engagements, a sore throat and jet lag. What could go wrong? This was a made-to-order event for trolls.
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Regardless, he's toast. This will dog him the entire campaign. The media will harp on every slip, every old age shuffle, every slack jawed stare. He needs to drop out
You act like the media harping on him for his age is anything new. Russian propagandist really need to stop commenting on our election...
Oh lol. For fucks sake. Someone criticises your fave and they're a "Russian propogandist"? Grow up JFC. Are all the people reporting questioning in the Dems Russian as well? Are the questioning dems all Russian agents? JFC
Oops /s on my last sentence, I understand you are probably not, just that you are not acting in a manner that best fits the scenario where trump loses.
Appreciate the clarification.. Totally missed that it was sarcasm.
He's definitely not "toast". One stupid debate will not affect anyone's decision to back him. Obama had a bad first debate as well when he ran in his very first electoral race, and he still won. Twice, to be exact. None of these things you mention are going to be a deal breaker for people who know what's at stake, and each day, that number grows. Joe isn't perfect, but he is light years better than another Trump term.
He is light years better than Trump. A tapeworm is lightyears better than Trump. Question is, what do undecideds think? I only hope Trumps lying and evasion turn off swing voters, but it hasn't so far
The age thing was already a concern. Now it's a panic. Even top Dems are avoiding question of whether to remove Biden.
The debate was a catastrophe. It really couldn't have gone much worse.
And replacing the incumbent last minute would also be catastrophic.
Well yeah it's a catastrophe. You can't avoid it. Realistically, Trump was already edging out Biden in the polls, including the 6 swing states.
They need a new candidate immediately.. but nobody else who has the party blessing (newman, kamala, Michelle, etc) polls as good against Trump as Biden.
So what do they do? Damned if you do, damned if you dont. They are probably goinf to lose the election.
We all do, Joe. That doesn't really change anything.
Setting aside November for a moment, shouldn't we be having a discussion about whether Biden is fit to be president right now? It can't be good for all of the nation's enemies to know the US of A has an addled president, can it?
He should be stepping aside and letting Kamala take over.
Let Democrats see how President Harris fares for a couple months before the Democrat convention has to decide in August whether to run a different candidate or stick with Harris.
That way, if they do decide to run with Harris, she'll be entering the election as an incumbent.
Harris blows
The incumbent advantage really doesn't apply if it's not who was elected in the first place. The only real advantage would be having a (short) record to run on. Even that assumes that (1) she would have one worth promoting, and (2) that people would care.
The bigger concern is that Harris really, REALLY is not popular. It would take a long time to convince people otherwise, if it could even be done. Hillary spent decades trying to build her image, including a full election cycle in earnest, and failed so miserably that we ended up with Trump.
Not that it helps, but she's currently more popular than Biden.
Clinton was doomed from the start, fox news and their ilk had spent 20 years making her the face of everything they told their viewers to fear.
Yes, and they've also started it with Harris.
But he is very obviously fit to be president. One single bad debate and suddenly we just throw in the towel? After everything he's already accomplished, and the dangers that Trump represents, the complete unwillingness to rally behind the candidate who already beat Trump once is insane. I don't know what happened in the debate, nobody does really, but his performance afterwards and the day after price pretty clearly that it wasn't senility. He's obviously still perfectly coherent, the debate was just really bad.
Immediately after the debate, when people were dooming out of their fucking minds, there were still undecided voters being interviewed who said Biden won on substance, and that they would vote for him after the debate. Of course maybe fewer than we would like, but people still recognized that Trump was just a bullshit spewing hose of idiotic nonsense and Biden was bringing some receipts.
I upvoted you because you got downvoted for some reason even though you are spitting facts.
Us dweebs who follow politics don't know how undecided voters think
Turn back before its too late. Biden deserves to be trounced after that performance. Next gaff could be worse. Too late to give him more chances, pivot or lose. We cannot afford to Weekend at Bernies a presidential candidate. Yes. Throw in the towel, that is the only way to face reality.
Biden got confused about the receipts he brought. Trump brought the alley
What Trump brought was an overblown ego and a fountain of lies and vitriol that his idiot followers eat up like candy.
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