Everyone deserves to be unhappy! But no. The radical right want to reserve this nightmare for straight couples. This is an attack on straight people! Why doesn't the GOP want gay people to be unhappy? Do your research people!
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Yeah, most Americans support the RIGHT to an abortion, too, but that didn't matter to the clerics on SCOTUS.
Yeah bruh, i don’t support same sex marriage. Or opposite sex marriage. I support staying the fuck out of people’s personal shit.
Good for Americans.
Now the big controversy is trans people, but if it wasn't, it would be anti gay sentiment. Gay is seen as comparatively normal even by Republicans because of a few complex reasons, but can be reductively simplified as changes to the Overton Window and what could be described as 'changing goal posts'
I think the cons take issue with trans women because they project their own behaviors onto others. They think a man can just throw on a wig and a dress and do all kinds of things they'd like to do? Honestly, I'm cis male and I have zero interest in walking into a woman's bathroom for my jollies. I'd rather not be in any public bathroom except to relieve myself and GTFO ASAP, and the idea of wanting to hang around the opposite sex restrooms to witness them relieving themselves? No thanks. But I honestly think some of these outspoken cons are honestly jealous of what they think trans women might be "getting away with" in that regard - again, maybe from personal kinks.
I think they also take issue with being "tricked" into being attracted to someone that was born male. For those that are probably closet cases, it seems to consume most of their day, to be honest. When I realize someone is trans that I thought was a female, I don't take it as a personal insult, but there is a certain type of man that definitely does.
I think even most cons finally realized that not every gay person is after them, trying to "recruit" them, etc...but they have moved onto breaking out in beads of sweat over what trans women might be up to...
They don't seem to spend too much of their time on trans men, though. A real puzzler. Not.
This is a case where it seems the elite consensus drove a change in culture whereas the gay marriage thing seems to have only happened once it became a norm across society.
Wow. Approval of interracial marriage only reached majority in 1995?
Alt text: People often say that same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 60s. But in terms of public opinion, same-sex marriage now is like interracial marriage in the 90s, when it had already been legal nationwide for 30 years.
So VOTE like IT
It's awesome to live in a time when even 50% of Republicans support gay marriage. If someone had told me that in 2005, I wouldn't have believed it.
It's almost like they don't give a shit unless their media actively makes them the boogeyman.
If progressives weren't behind Trans, the Right would go back to demonizing LGB. Wherever that line of culture war is, they will whip their base into a frenzy over it. Of they win the fight against Trans, suddenly the vast majority of Republicans would hate gays again in time for elections.
Amazing that people are against shit that has net zero direct effect on their own lives, and is all about love. God is love, dontcha know?
As someone who escaped, "God is love" as well as knowing gay people always was something a bit hard to reconcile, but not as much as you think. See, if you take all the sins in the Bible, or even just the ones in 1 Cor 6:9-11, then almost everyone in the world is a sinner. It works better on a sect that is small and consider most mainstream religions wrong, along with enough isolationism.
I neve4 had a blinding hatred for gay people, and had friends etc. To past me, a gay person was just as sinful as anyone who had sex outside of marriage. The passage above lists fornication, adultery, drunkards, revelers and such with what some translate as homosexuality(iirc there's some who believe it meant pederasty instead.) A reviler isn't really that bad in the grand scheme of things, and almost everyone I knew outside the religion had sex before marrriage.
Combined with little articles explaining homosexual feelings weren't sinful, but acting on them were(same article pointing out straight people had to avoid sin in similar ways) I was fooled into thinking a weird "Well, I don't agree with it, but it's God's rule and it's his house..."
I think part of it also was that I definitely did not consider myself "better", as I hated myself for "breaking God's law" by masturbating to porn. I didn't even do it that much, but if I got tempted enough I would hate myself for months on end, considering 6 months not doing so to be not quite adequate, and considering myself not worthy of romantic relationships due to my "problem."
In a religion where everyone falls short of God's glory, I didn't really rank the sins, and tended to push to the back of my mind the things that didn't feel right.
Religion strongly discourages thinking for yourself, even if you think something is OK. It tells you that you're not good enough to make those decisions yourself, because see what happened when Adam and Eve did that? Cognitive Disonance is a feature.
You mean apart from the flood, and plagues and generally killing his children?
Amazing to me that when someone mentions God how many go running for their Bible. God is not something i believe in, but I know there are many iterations.
Well and those awful Canaanite women and children. Murder them all, obvs.
Fun fact: when the Catholic Church™ created “The Bible” there was a not-so minor scuffle over the idea that the “Old Testament” god was the same as the “New Testament” god, and, well. Let’s just say there was some unpleasantness for a little while. Fortunately for The Church™, the one they picked ended up, uh, winning. Which, while being a foregone conclusion was also, happily, supported by capital punishment by the state in any cases of failure to reckanize.
Mere blips and rounding errors!
something something Leviticus or whatever
Whatever you Deuteronomy, you gotta do to me.
All you need is love.
~ John Lennon