Why are there so many tankies on Lemmy?
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2025
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"Tankies" is just "pinkos" and "commies", words that are not really offensive or describe anything actually bad but challenge the chauvinist and reactionary positions of liberals.
Lemmy is tankie because it's cool. You should try to be as cool as us.
You're on Lemmygrad, a community for communists.
In the meantime, define "tankies", because you don't seem to know what that word means.
What does "tankie" mean to you?
it was made by communists
why are there so many liberals here?
usians are the most propagandized people on earth
I would argue a certain segment of Europeans are even more propagandized than the average USian. At least in the US, for one reason or another (usually political tribalism), a lot of people mistrust their government, and to a lesser extent, their media. People in Europe still have way too much faith in their bourgeois institutions.
It is a weird thing in the US, cause you have people who sorta act like:
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If the democrats are in power (the government is terrible, omg, it's so so terrible, we have to get them out of office)
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If the republicans are in power (omg I love government now, look at how they're sticking it to the libs)
And to some extent, the reverse of that as well. These days I think more are getting frustrated with the gov in general, but you still have some of those loyalists who act like it's the "wrong side" that is the problem with governance, not the system as a whole.
Although, there is ample evidence of genocide on both sides. Why does it need to be one team vs the other, vs I don't know, a general support of rights?
Where is the physical evidence of this genocide? Because I can see dead Palestinian children by the truckloads if I want to.
What is a reputable source for you? Visiting one of the compounds, which wouldn't be possible? Izrale is livestreaming their atrocities, china has media control.
I've been to Xinjiang and spoken to Uyghurs. They either laugh at the idea of a genocide or are horrified that such a narrative exists. The huge amount of Uyghur culture being practiced and celebrated and used as a source of internal tourism for China again suggests that no genocide is taking place.
What did happen is a deradicalisation campaign almost 10 years ago. That was to prevent the spread of fundamentalist Islam in the wake if the Arab spring, which was backed by the west, resulted in the fall of Libya and it's current woes and the rise of Isis in Syria.
The west wanted this wave of madness to spread into Xinjiang and do to it what they have done repeatedly in the Islamic world, which is use radical Islam to topple governments opposed to US hegemony. Is it any wonder that when China fights back against this the west starts up the propaganda machine to invoke accusations of genocide.
This is the exact same playbook they used against communist Afghanistan and the Soviet Union, which resulted in the Taliban.
They have smartphones there. They MAKE smartphones there.
The genocide in Gaza has really demolished the narrative about one going on in China. Because we all know what a real genocide looks like now, if the Chinese were doing somethuing similiar they wouldn't be able to hide it.
I wish this was the case. I just had a coworker bring up the Uyghur "genocide" as evidence about how bad China is last Friday.
I'm travelling and it constantly comes up. The fact that I've been there, spoken to Uyghurs, and they've either laughed or been straight up horrified at the western narrative is apparently not evidence enough to convince most westerners. There have been exceptions, like this sweet but naive couple from Canada who's world view my girlfriend and I were able to completely change over the course of a couple of weeks.
I think for most they've convinced themselves, with the aid of a huge amount of propaganda in the form of news and TV/movies, that the west are the good guys. The thought that anything else could be the case is simply impossible to contemplate, as it would utterly shatter their world view and morals