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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think older sysadmins are the only ones who understand the DNS knowledge required to grok federation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Perhaps it's because people under 30 have no sense of responsibility so don't really care to communicate much with peers. They don't have the means to bring systems like this online. They don't have the historical perspective to take part in intelligent conversation, so they have Twitter and Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's also used by loads of tankies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately true. Blocking features generally work pretty well though at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Young people don't even understand that the internet isn't only the 5 websites that have existed since before they were born lol

That's probably a big part of it. We kind of designed the internet to become an information super oligarchy, even if it wasn't intentional.

I'm 33 for the record so I guess I'm an older tech nerd. Nice. 😎

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I started back in the Wild West BBS days on the 80s; graduated to USENET in the 90s, website forums in the Web 1.0 days, /., Reddit, and now Lemmy. Yeah, I’ve been around. Been “Yaztromo” all that time too.

I don’t mind that “Eternal September” hasn’t infected this space yet — that’s a feature, not a bug!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well it's new open source tech that can be self hosted by the 30+ tech nerds that have the money and interest in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

as a young IT with friends who dont know much about IT i have to say that most around 20 use reddit, instagram, ... cause its the only thing they know. everyone they know uses them and many of them want likes, ...

if they would join the fediverse:

  1. they wouldnt understand how it works. what is a server? why choose an instance? its just too complicated
  2. all their friends dont use the fediverse. they would be alone and have nobody who they can share things to
  3. they would mostly see tech stuff and less in categories they are interested in
  4. none of the people they follow on instagram are here. the cant follow their celebrities, ... and see their content
  5. the fediverse still has to less users to be successful worldwide. its growing. and just like facebook in its first years, its growing slow.

=> give it a few more years and get your friends, family & collegues on here and see the fediverse grow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

● under 30

● i mean im getting there in terms of tech interests

● Yeah ok i use linux

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because ipad kids are happy with instagram,tiktok and other shit and doesn't give a fuck about privacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • ~30 years old or older
  • tech enthusiasts/workers
  • linux users
  • hates Elon Musk
  • hates capitalism
  • loves free software but somehow hates free markets
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

My 15 yo ass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

*looks at self*:

  • 40
  • nerd
  • chief amongst my nerddoms being tech

I feel both insulted and understood at the same time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe I'm am outlier but I'm 21 and here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

C'mon........16 is old now. Once you hit senior in high school, it's all downhill from there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well.. I'm 36 yo physician, an orthopedic surgeon resident. But I do LOVE tech&gaming. I want to switch from reddit because my favorite app boost stopped working and the creator is developing a boost app for lemmy. Oh and the official reddit app is just shit. I do hope lemmy will get bigger.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh wow, it's great to hear from a fellow healthcare professional!

I'm a 5th year med student who switched to using lemmy once my favourite app, sync for reddit stopped working :(

I'm a huge tech nerd too and while I do love the culture here, I find myself occasionally wondering if there are any communities on lemmy focused on medicine and/or medical professionals.

Would you happen to know any that you could recommend?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not that I know of, maybe you can open one 😉

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh c'mon, 30s is not older.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is picking a server/federation too complicated?

Yes.

Absolutely.

Literally the single biggest problem with fediverse adoption, brought up in every discussion about migrating to it. It will never replace centralized sites as long as it remains confusing and complicated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14t9t66/im_so_lost_is_there_an_easy_mode_to_the_fediverse/

https://www.reddit.com/r/LemmyMigration/comments/145epgc/looking_for_a_lemmy_website_try_lemmyworld/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good. I don't want to see some teenagers doing some dumb dance or whatever is on normie platforms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What do people have against dancing? Life is soul sucking enough - let people do their silly little dances without judgement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I have nothing against it at all, I just have no interest in watching them lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But then how will we know if our drip is bussin'?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

fr no tomorrow our drip is mid no cap

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

30s software engineer / linux user here.

We are exactly who you want as the "primer" user group. We will collectively make sure the whole thing works before the load really rams up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're the generation that learned to troubleshoot bc we had to. If we wanted to play that shiny new game or app, we had to actually get it running first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot. I'm so grateful I had the experience of messing with the windows registry and other phenomena of the 90s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

TBH, I actually thought he was talking about autoexec.bat and EMS memory, etc, rather than windows. I guess I'm slightly older? Maybe not. I'm also thinking windows registry thing hasn't really gone away. Yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't want to stereotype anyone, but in my own social experience, younger groups don't give a shit about corporate monopolies or privacy, they just want things to work fast and automatically (ex: TikTok). And those I know in older brackets are still on Facebook and complaining that they don't want to deal with change because their family/business/workflow would be affected.

I happen to be 38, a linux user, and a gamer. And I concur that my age-group has just always seemed to be more open to new technologies for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think younger people don't give a shit about privacy because they grew up in a post 9/11 surveillance world. Facebook, Instagram and the internet at large became a giant surveillance machine and they've never known another possibility, so it's normalized to them.

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