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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

I really tried to watch Velma, and the only way I felt I could watch it was to totally disassociate it from Scooby Doo.

The problem in doing so, which is obvious in hindsight, is that on its own merits, there isn't really a show there that can stand on its own two feet and be compelling. That realisation alone should have been enough for the networks to pass, but with star power assigned to the writing and a known IP, I guess this was enough to get the green light.

I'm all for creative retelling of stories, but the fundamentals don't change. The absolute WORST thing you can do, once the reviews come in, is to criticise the critical response. Sure, many probably didn't get the artistic vision, but ultimately you are in the entertainment industry, and the creator and producers arguably gave themselves a heavy job in creating a show that caters across several cultural subjects, while also limiting themselves to the Scooby Doo/Mystery Inc gang. It's why I don't consider it "lazy" - if anything, they shot for the stars and hit the ceiling.

IMO, it's a bad show, but could have been good if they had written original characters. It would have highlighted that some characters were either unlikeable/lazy, or that the premise needed more work.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

I always thought race swap gender swapping roles was a cash grab and a way to just make people fight. And it seems to work every time. I personally think it's a slap in the face to the genders and races that were swapped in. If new movies can't make new characters and stories with different races and sexes without seemingly purposefully causing controversy by replacing one race or sex with the other I'd take that as a low blow.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fiona and Cake worked, but only because the show is not really about Fiona and Cake. Also, it meta-acknowledges the whole thing right away, that they've been shoehorned into a universe where they don't belong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that’s a whole self-aware/self-referencing thing that doesn’t really work as a comparison in this context

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fiona and Cake already existed in the original adventure time show anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just curious: how'd you feel if they literally and publicly role the dice for any character where race or gender isn't required for the plot?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm fairly sure cyanide and happiness do that for their comics.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ridley Scott in the original Alien movie literally did that. The names of the characters sound gender neutral, and the production hired actors who would just seem good fit for the role. Now that I think about it, the race and gender of the crew did not matter in the plot, because the main character and attraction is the Alien!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if that's true for The Thing, but the names certainly seem race-neutral (although an all-male cast).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

If there's no actual reason for them being a particular race, skin tone, gender, orientation, etc then go for it. I can't really see a reason to be upset at this hypothetical.

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