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Georgia court of appeals indefinitely pauses the election subversion conspiracy case against Donald Trump (www.cnn.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

I'm fucking furious at Fani Willis for this shit. She's the fucking lead prosecutor in one of the biggest, highest profile court cases in US history. Likely world history, since world leaders have almost never been tried in court before. It's a goddamn open and shut case, too, since he is on audio doing the thing he is accused of doing. All she has to do is keep it in her pants until the trial is over.

And again, this isn't purely about her keeping it in her pants. This is about not taking vacations with the guy she hired who is paid for by the state. If you are going to try taking down the fucking former president of the US, you have to walk the tightest tight rope ever to be walked. You can't have simple fuck ups like this. This is so obvious! Every single person who has ever worked at a large organization, government or corporation is shown the "be careful if you date your coworkers" video. Every single manager at those places are also shown the "don't date the people you manage" video. She hired him and manages him. This is obvious shit to not do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

lol where’s that idiot that told me this has no impact on the case at? 😆

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

In a sane world, it shouldn't. But our "justice" system has become a corrupt joke.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

In unrelated news, Georgia Court of Appeals sporting all new luxury RVs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

conspiracy case against Donald Trump

Do you mean Convicted Felon Donald Trump?

[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is one of those examples that we can all point to for why Trump’s behavior as a corrupt mob-style boss is not just bravado, and anyone who tells you it is is either ignorant or has an ulterior motive.

There is no conflict of interest here, and I also firmly believe there isn’t even an appearance of a conflict of interest. A Georgia lawyer can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe there’s a specific statue that spells out that it is acceptable for a married couple to be on opposing sides of a trial. It was determined that’s entirely fine. So how could it be that two prosecutors, who happen to be fucking, while working on the same side of a trial have a conflict of interest? What, they know how each other look naked, so that gives them some legal advantage over their platonic opposition? It just doesn’t track.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This isn't because they were fucking.

This is because she is fucking a guy she personally selected to pay as a consultant using state funds, who then paid for vacations for her. The appearance of a conflict of interest is that it would be in her best interest to continue this case as long as possible to continue paying this dude, who will then continue using that money she's paying him to take her on vacations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah. It’s the “illegal” use of state money that’s damming imo. Well I dunno if illegal but I hope it is.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I don't know about Georgia but at least in New Jersey that's not allowed. Not only that buts it's defense choice of attorney.

Several years ago, I was in legal trouble. I was recommended a lawyer by a distant family friend. That lawyer happened to be the wife of the lead prosecutor.the lead prosecutor was immediately dismissed from the case and another prosecutor appointed.

I got off with a light sentence and have cleaned up my life. That said who knows what would of happened if I had a different lawyer, the prosecutor was notorious for being hard and firm in his cases. I probably would of fared worse but he couldn't touch the case and a junior prosecutor was assigned. As I said different state so different lawyers but kind of makes sense. You can't monitor opposing benches communication or shared knowledge or deals...a lot of political questions not typically worth dealing with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

So, you hired the wife of the prosecutor as your defense? That's very different than there being a relationship between two attorneys on the same counsel having a relationship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It's a bit rough on justice if everyone knows they just have to hire a guy's wife to get his hardass off their case. I guess it makes sure she has clients, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

That’s super interesting, thanks for sharing your experience! The way you describe it, it actually makes a lot of sense that deference would be given to the defense side.

I’m so conflicted, because I tend to automatically sympathize with most defendants since the system is so often stacked against them. Trump has turned that upside down. Never thought I’d cheer for a prosecutor…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're saying that the appointment itself was improper.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I could see it as a conflict if she only appointed him after they started dating, but Willis testified vehemently that they only started their relationship after she appointed him. She said the witness who claimed otherwise was either lying or misremembering. I guess it comes down to who should be believed, and while I would never blindly believe any officer of the state, I think she has more credibility than Trump and his defense team.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Which removing the appointed prosecutor would render moot, which they've already done.

Their argument is that the case was only brought so that the prosecutor would be hired and then kick back money to the DA. It's laughable on its face.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of what happens Fani is dumb as hell for having someone she’s romantically involved with on her team. She had to know they’d come at her with anything they possibly could

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes that’s so dumb. It’s like obviously stupid. He could have stepped down and I’m sure she could have instantly found someone impartial to take his place.

I know there isn’t technically a conflict of interest, but there appears to be and that’s enough.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

She's a prosecutor, the actual corruption by the court overshadows the appearance of corruption by counsel. That argument about appearances never matters when it appears that the courts are favoring Trump as a defendant. The American political establishment wants to destroy the government.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Correct it doesn’t, I agree. But that’s the status quo, that’s what the prosecution has to fight against. They ARE on their back foot because of Trump’s enormous and violent following. And when you’re on your back foot, you have to be perfect. It’s unfair and it’s total shit. But they screwed up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

The defense has a married couple acting as their lawyer. Prior to dating apps, almost all relationships originated from the workplace. EVERYONE in my family married, over the age of 20, meet via work. I met my wife from a college summer job.

It's all bullshit whatsboutism used by a literal fascist.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If she just handed it off to a different prosecutor, how long would it take for them to get up to speed? If there is a back-up ready to go, it sounds like this prosecutor is risking the entire trial over stubbornness and pride.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a team of prosecutors that started at 4, now is at 3 after Wade got kicked off. Now it would be down to 2 if she steps down. Typically simpler cases only have 1 prosecutor so if most of the legwork is done they might be able to proceed with 2 or add someone. I agree though this case is much bigger than one persons career.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

19 defendents and RICO charges has a lot of moving parts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

No doubt. Starting to look more and more like none of these other 3 cases will be resolved before the election.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

With 4 years to prepare. Staged

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

The 1/6 case still has a shot assuming the Supreme Court doesn't outright say he has immunity, that's the only thing holding it up.

Of course, Cannon is going to rule in Florida if Jack Smith has the right to actually, as Special Prosecutor, you know, prosecute the Florida case. I could see the Trump lawyers spinning that around and say "Well, if he can't prosecute one case, then he can't prosecute the other either."

At which point somebody owes Bill Clinton a giant apology over the whole Kenneth Starr bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

as intended (by the defendants)