I for one have been a WIndows user (developing apps) since 3.0. And now I'm ditching it for Linux because of clusterfuck Windows 11 is (also to some extent Windows 10). WIll have to run a Windows virtual machine but only for developing long term legacy WIndows .NET Framework apps. For other development (Android, .NET with Avalonia, Blazor, some Rust etc) I'll use Linux natively.
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Right with you. I’ve been using Macintoshes for work, Windows for gaming/personal, and Linux for servers for several decades now and I’m finally done with Windows altogether. I’ve needed a good excuse to ditch Windows and 11 has been an excellent one. The Steam Deck has proven to me I have little need for Windows anymore. I can survive without the one or two games that don’t run on it.
If only my work supported Linux for desktops/laptops…
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Good. Stop treating your users like shit.
Hehe, I don't think they will. Looks to me they must be aware of this. Likely they weighed their options and they do this on purpose.
They know. Microsoft is now a service company. Windows upgrades are free. Do you remember when Microsoft said that windows 10 is the last windows?
Now the upgrade to 11 is free, Microsoft is a service company... Windows is only a platform to sell you an office 365 subscription, copilot bullshit and grabbing your information.
They know the Windows days are numbered, and they are going to extract the most juice out of it until it dies.
In their head, the only OS you'll need in the future is a browser, until then, tough luck peasants.
Correct answer. And I think we've been there. We had serial terminals and thin clients before. Just that they were operated by your university or employer and not a for profit megacorp. We even had projects like FirefoxOS, interestingly enough not by Microsoft back then. But the idea was to move everything into the browser.
It's certainly going to help any of the service providers. Any data and control moves away from the user, onto their computers and into their control.
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Microsoft's terrible OS and even worse sentiment for the user is killing the PC hardware business. Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc need to turn to Linux.
I think it's mainly because the entire PC market is shrinking. Most people use phones and tablets these days and those don't come with Windows.
This is a great example of people taking sides and not seeing past their own noses about it.
Also of not reading past the headline, but whatever.
If I have to choose between the janky but unlocked environment of Windows and a world of iOS and Googlified Android users I'd pick Windowsland in a heartbeat.
We need a better integrated device open alternative, and fast.
I'm sorry, I don't really get it. What sides? And who didn't read the article? That's their main conclusion as well. Plus they add some fluff before and after. But that's not really important. Could you maybe explain what an "device open alternative" is? I don't know that term. And it's kind of hard to find anything just by googling "device open".
I'm talking about all the people going "good" in this thread out of hostility for Windows/MS without realizing the change being described is a move to a more closed-off, privacy-invasive environment, not the opposite. Which is a result of either not reading past the headline or being so polarized on the issue that they are willing to take the downsides for the sake of schadenfreude.
As for what I meant by that vague term, I just didn't want to say "an open mobile OS". Mostly because... well, it invites a lot of open questions about Android I don't think are interesting right now, but also because I think "mobile OS" is increasingly a misnomer.
People are clearly using iOS and Android as their main computing platforms now, both of them are rolling out full multi-window desktops for larger devices out of the box and they're both already usable that way with limitations right now. When you say "mobile OS" people visualize a phone and want to talk about Linux on phones and... that's probably not the right answer or the right way to look at it.
Thanks for explaining. It's a bit tricky if you invent words without explaining them at the same time.
You're right. I'm used to read stupid takes here on Lemmy, so I mainly ignored those. It is like you said. People are moving more towards mobile devices where they're not in control of anything. They're mostly walled gardens. You don't get administrator privileges, Google or whoever is making those choices for you. And they're so easy to use, you don't even learn anything about the internet and their inner workings. It's all a service and content magically appears on your screen. All of that is a step down from where we've been before.
I struggle to recommend Microsoft instead. While it's still a computer and that definitely changes things, they're headed in exactly the same direction. Everything is set on spying per default these days, and they also try to lure you in into their walled gardens, paid services instead if owning software or disk space... It's not the same level. But not good either.
Ideally we don't want any of them to be in control of our platforms and devices, but have some control ourselves. With smartphones that's next to impossible. With windows you might be able to pull it off if you put in some effort, since it's not the default experience. Given it's something that can be changed.
That sounds horrible
Gaming and corporate software are the last strongholds, but mobile gaming keeps growing and I see more and more people using tablets for office work. Especially when companies keep moving more of their core applications to the cloud with web/app interfaces.
I'm forced to use windows for work and I absolutely loathe it. I'd rather go home and use my mac than deal with all the bloat, ads and nonsense. I just find it insufferable.
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I see that, too. Always makes me feel like a boomer (despite being in the wrong age group to be one), because I like my computer for the hundred and something keys which fit snuggly underneath all fingers, the separate keys for brackets and umlauts and numbers. And that I can open and operate like 3 programs next to each other while doing work. Somehow people younger than me(?) do it very differently.
(Plus I can install an operating system I really like on my computer.)
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That's most likely it. Most of the world is running on a smartphone.
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