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death death to the idf

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

so I guess this means anybody who goes to Glastonbury next year is materially supporting zionists

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

yes but whats fucked in addition to that is there’s very little you can do with your money that doesn’t support zionists or fascists in general. basically anything you can buy your money goes to the worst people on earth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I want to encourage more people to refer to this as what it is - the Hitlerian definition of anti-Semitism.

Modern Hitlerian anti-Semites view being Jewish and being a Zionist as one and the same. A Jewish person can be born in the US, have complete loyalty to the US, and have absolutely zero interest in or loyalty to Israel. But according to the Hitlerian definition of anti-Semitism, Jewish people have innate loyalty to Israel from birth. They are inseparable. To be Jewish is to be Israeli. A Jewish person cannot really be a full citizen of the United States, Canada, Germany, or any other nation except Israel. They will always be the suspect foreign other.

I use the word "Hitlerian" because that's exactly what this logic is. The Nazis held that Jews could never truly be full citizens of Germany. Countless Jewish WW1 veterans, people who considered themselves fully German had zero loyalty to any other nation, were sent to camps on the theory that they could never truly be German. They would always be foreigners. They would always be the other. This was also the logic of the Japanese internment camps. Every Japanese person was suspect, simply due to their ethnic heritage. They could be the most stars-and-stripes wearing gung-ho America fan imaginable, it didn't matter. Their preferences, beliefs, hopes, and dreams, none of it mattered. All that mattered was their ethnicity.

Glastonbury is using the Hitlerian definition of anti-Semitism. They follow the Hitlerian belief that all Jews are intrinsically foreigners and owe innate loyalty to the state of Israel. And we can't be afraid to call this logic Hitlerian, as that's what it truly is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please tell me the comments are cool

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

they wouldn’t allow comments on this post for obvious reasons lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are locked, I checked the comments of their other posts and a lot of people are shitting on them, posting Palestine flags etc, but also a ton of hasbara bots or zionists posting because of the attention they've gotten.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's not gone down well. They've locked everything. But old contacts from music mag stuff who are turbo-libs have been in touch going "they should sell it now" before they devalue the brand too much but also because they think they've tanked the outsider status even if Glasto will obviously keep being hugely popular and popular.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Statement as empty as their convictions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not though. The first two paragraphs are exactly what Id expect. The deliberate (but deliberately written by lawyers to avoid libel countersuits) conflation of antisemitism & hate speech (terms that from an institution can be used against them in court) is extremely deliberate.

Emily Eavis is sat on a £250m+ brand..

If she has to kill some of that credibility, even saw off some cultural importance, she can bail and make absurd amounts of money.

It's not empty. It's a confession for the future.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

yeah totally empty. “we created this event in the 70s so people could come together over music 🥺🥺 not speak out against genocide”

as if they didnt just create the event to make money

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

DEATH DEATH TO THE IDF chicken-bop

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

theyre gonna take away any meaning to the term anti-semitism if they don't shut the fuck up and stop being/supporting baby killers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wrote something that was entirely too revalealing and justifying but...

That boat has already sailed, been hit by drones by the IDF, and sank.

I absolutely don't mean that there's been an increase in antisemitism (if anything more people are interested in the difference) but Israel has increasing fucked it in my experience.

The kneejerk reaction to "antisemitism" now in my experience is a jagoff whether on a small or a serious level. And while it's problematic it's also... Correct

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Any concept of real discussion of anti-semitism is dead and buried, and the Star of David having meaning as anything other than a hate symbol is next in line.

I’ve seen the Star of David spray painted on too many bombed out homes and branded on too many Palestinians, when I see it I don’t immediately think “Judaism” anymore, I have the same reaction as seeing a Swastika or a Confederate flag.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It’s done. Antisemitism isn’t something that can be discussed coherently anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

i hate to say it because there IS antisemitism but you’re right. the term at this point NEVER means actual antisemitism. its like they’re two completely different words at this point. antisemitism is real but zionist “antisemitism” isnt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

theyre gonna take away any meaning to the term anti-semitism if they don't shut the fuck up and stop being/supporting baby killers.

It's already dead and buried honestly. Now the word means anything that's critical of israel and is allowing cover for actual antisemites to join hands with zionists in being depraved pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we stand against all forms of war and terrorism

doubt

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

war and terrorism is when you make me feel uncomfortable

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Sean "ever wonder why Jewish people own all the property in America" Carter is literally performing there but yeah the death to the IDF chants are the real antisemitism