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It is NOT for pushing money to a porn star. It is for marking the hush money as legal fees. That's ALL it is. They didn't even get him on the moral high ground, but nitpicked his books.
This country is so beyond fucked... Cannot even get basic details correct...
He's also got 2 other criminal trials being held up by SCOTUS and Judge Cannon, which includes charges of Insurrection, so there is that to think about.
Campaign finance fraud
And we got Al Capone on tax evasion instead of murder as well. So what?
Judge Meachum is explicitly on record saying he doesn't want to put Trump in prison.
Even past that, "we got Capone on tax evasion" is a more oblique way of saying "the local and state governments were too corrupt to successfully prosecute Capone, so we needed a federal department to get involved".
I would say the Capone case is ALSO a classic example of the deep flaws in the American justice system. Its just more focused on how wealthy crooks can manipulate local prosecutions.
I thought he just said he didn't want to put Trump in jail for contempt?
On Trump's tenth instance of contempt he said that he didn't want Trump to go to prison. I suspect the judge will issue the maximum fine allowed and no jail time.
I assume he meant jail for contempt, not no jail at all.
Though jailing trump will 100% put the judge's life in danger.
Its not even for paying her. Its for paying her to nok speak. People are ok with him paying for whatever sexual fantasy or lust he may have had. But not ok with him paging her to not tell
It's not for either of those things. It's for cooking the books to hide the transaction. Falsifying financial records is the crime. And it would be a misdemeanor except that it was done to further a conspiracy to defraud the public which makes it a felony. It's not a crime to drive, but it is if it's a getaway car.
so it wouldn't have been a crime if he had just paid her to not tell, in order to protect his presidential candidacy? The actual crime was that he tried to hide that he had paid her not to tell?
He committed a criminal act to hide the source of the funds. He could have just paid her out of pocket and not told anyone. No crime then.
Really? Was your truth social account broken so you transitioned to Lemmy to try to minimize this historic event? The obvious difference was the tangible personal responsibility here. Not to divorce responsibility for all the other stuff, but I'm confident even you realize how complex it was to convict your precious Trump for things he personally did with a trail of direct evidence. Putting one person in jail for things like war crimes is a whole different level of grey and frankly there aren't readily available systems built to deal consequences for this things like there are for personal fraud.
There not being systems built to deal with the big crimes is exactly what the post is complaining about, I think.
So, for an European who hasn't been following this: criminal conviction does not bar him from running for president?
No it's mostly a giant theater that so far has had zero actual impact on the election. But it makes some cultists feel like the justice system is still intact and definitely proscecutes billionaires.
Trump will get off with some BS excuse like they always do at the end of it.
The U.S. Constitution sets out three eligibility requirements for the presidency:
The person must be a natural-born citizen of the United States
At least 35 years old
A resident of the United States for at least 14 years.
There are no restrictions regarding criminal records.
which is actually good, because otherwise they could convict you for the pettiest shit or simply invent a law to convict you over, thus barring you from presidency when you haven't done anything that people dislike.
the problem now is that there's a large group of people who don't consider "being convicted of fraud" as a reason to stop voting for trump, and in fact will mos likely NEVER find any reason to stop voting for him or whoever the republicans put forward.
As a convicted felon and resident of Florida, though...he shouldn't be allowed to vote. How could you rub for an office you can't vote for?
Please don't perpetuate this myth. He was tried, and found guilty, for falsifying business records to cover up payments that he made for purposes that many of his voters would find objectionable in order to hide that objectionable information from those voters to prevent them from making an informed decision and affecting an election.
That's a very long way of saying "Hush money to a porn star".
Its not even as though Trump didn't commit additional financial crimes while in office. He took money from the Saudis for state secrets. He traded insider information to his son-in-law for fundraising money. He staffed his departments with hedge fund insiders as a quid pro quo for personal financial favors. And that's before we get to the illegal use of military force or the illegal direction of federal money for his pet border projects or the illegal arrest and unconstitutional prosecution of migrants and dissidents or the J6 shit.
91 fucking indictments. One trial. For the hooker hush money.
Say what you will about kickbacks to Stormy Daniels, but its the least lethal policy on the Trump docket. And that's a real window into the soul of America. Rounding up and incarcerating people without trial is fine. Bombing foreigners is fine. Marching a high-on-their-own-supply fascist mob through Congress is fine. Just don't get caught slipping your mistress a tenner to keep her mouth shut during an election season.
This trial isn't about those things, and most of the US hates those events, so keep on preaching to the choir.
Bush Jr should have been convicted for mass murder. Obama should have been convicted for drone strikes.
Trump and Clinton raped women. Probably not the only presidents.
Edit: I'm not talking about Lewinsky. See my comment below.
Trump raped. Clinton just used his positions of power to make him think he was a player. Very, very significant distinction.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but at least those awful actions are plausibly covered as a presidential act made in the country’s interests. I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.
Trump’s shit is all self-serving and against the interests of the United States.
Yeah, we know. That has no bearing on this case.
Linkerbaan is a shill. Look at their posts. The terrorists in the Kremlin pay them to get Trump elected.
It's really no different than saying Clinton got impeached for a blowjob.
He wasn't, it was perjury. Though I'd say that election interference is a bit more severe than lying about a beej.
Election interference and Fraud.
He is a literal, convicted, fraud.