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What is it about the text messages and emails sent by older people that make me feel like I'm having a stroke?

Maybe they're used to various shortcuts in their writing that they picked up before autocorrect became common, but these habits are too idiosyncratic for autocorrect to handle properly. However, that doesn't explain the emails I've had to decipher that were typed on desktop keyboards. Has anyone else younger than 45 or so felt similarly frustrated with geriatrics' messages?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's about as annoying as young people abandoning any and all punctuation entirely. The amount of people that will write an entire paragraph and not use a single period is obscene. If you can't bother to organize your thoughts in the most minimal way, I'm going to assume you have nothing of worth to say and just won't read it. And frankly, if what you're saying is so boiler plate you don't need punctuation, then you really don't have anything to add, so probably just shouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's about as annoying as young people abandoning any and all punctuation entirely the amount of people that will write an entire paragraph and not use a single period is obscene if you can't bother to organize your thoughts in the most minimal way I'm going to assume you have nothing of worth to say and just won't read it and frankly, if what you're saying is so boiler plate you don't need punctuation then you really don't have anything to add so probably just shouldn't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Its about as annoying as young people abandoning any and all punctuation entirely the amount of people that will write an entire paragraph and not use a single period is obscene if you cant bother to organize your thoughts in the most minimal way Im going to assume you have nothing of worth to say and just wont read it and frankly if what you're saying is so boiler plate you dont need punctuation then you really dont have anything to add so probably just shouldnt

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, younger people who grew up with the internet write their texts and emails as if they are instant messaging, because they grew up with AOL and MSN messenger etc when it comes to text based communication.

Older people who communicated over text before the internet only did this in one way - writing letters.

As a result their style of texting or emailing is often very long form in comparison.

When writing letters you are limited by how much room there is on a piece of paper.

This leads to using some shorthand which used to be fairly common, but has fallen out of public knowledge for younger people.

You could argue that some of the stuff that younger people email or text informally can be just as cryptic because there is entirely different shorthand that millenials and generations Y and Z use.

If you closely examine how you casually communicate with your peers of a similar age, you will notice it can be just as odd as what you experience from communicating with generations on either side of you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Young people grew up with MSN and AOL... since when young is 40yos.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm over a decade away from 40 and I grew up with it.

Furthermore the context of the use of younger is in:

"In my experience, younger people who grew up with the internet write their texts and emails as if they are instant messaging, because they grew up with AOL and MSN messenger etc when it comes to text based communication."

Which is replying to a post titled:

"What is it about the text messages and emails sent by older people that make me feel like I'm having a stroke?"

The use of "Younger" here is not an absolute term, it is a relative term, meaning it refers to people younger than the older people the original poster is referring to, who are in my estimation likely to be anyone under the age of 60 based on what OP describes and my informed experiences having worked in the IT industry supporting users of all ages.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Has anyone else younger than 45 or so felt similarly frustrated with geriatrics’ messages?

What always makes me laugh about posts like this is the knowledge that soon you too will hit that terrible 45 and become "geriatric". Your text messages and emails (how quaint) will suddenly become incomprehensible and everyone will claim you are giving them a stroke just by existing .

The clock is ticking... faster than you think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's an incredibly bad faith reading.

Anyone younger than 45 is going to have greater digital exposure and be more adept at electronic communication. The older you are, the less likely you are to be frustrated with how geriatrics communicate because the more familiar pre-digital communication styles will be to you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s an incredibly naive answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Mate, i'm 46. I literally see this day in and day out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@enbyecho @asklemmy I'm well aware that I'm somebody else's elder. I meant it matter-of-factly, like "geriatric pregnancy".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m well aware that I’m somebody else’s elder. I meant it matter-of-factly, like “geriatric pregnancy”.

a) You made a gross generalization that cannot be attributed to a particular age group in a consistent, reproducible manner. "Old" in itself is of course an imprecise term use primarily in relative terms.
b) If as you assert, then you used the term incorrectly. The commonly accepted medical definition of "geriatric" is 65 years or older. When used in a general way to mean "aged" it is not "matter-of-fact" but a generalization and by it's nature relative.

What you really mean is "people older than me that I find annoying" similar to "boomer" or, in your case, your specific non-factual and colloquial use of "geriatric".

IOW, attributing your annoyance to some vague age group is roughly as ridiculous as attributing your annoyance to the color T-shirt someone is wearing. Or what country they come from, race they are... etc etc etc. It's a pointless, meaningless, and often highly localized stereotype.

It's not the attributes of the person, it's the behavior.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

@enbyecho @asklemmy Well, geriatric pregnancies start at age 35, so it's really a flexible adjective. If you took it incorrectly, that's on you.

Based on the mixed responses I'm getting, it is not an established stereotype that older people write emails and text messages poorly. If I knew it was then I wouldn't have asked if others had similar experiences to mine in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've observed the same thing. The phenomenon is real, even if it's a generalization. How would you communicate this idea in a polite way? "A certain way of communicating by text that is predominantly displayed by the geriatric population"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“A certain way of communicating by text that is predominantly displayed by the geriatric population”

You don't. It's still a pointless unprovable stereotype.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Is it really unprovable? A quick search online for me reveals a lot of spilled pixels on the subject of how age is correlated with communication styles in various media. I think Gretchen McCulloch wrote about this even.

I don't see why it's bad to talk about these things. I'll admit, OP's language here was rather inflammatory. But some people say what you're saying regarding ebonics, yet AAVE has become one of the biggest fields in linguistics today. "Stereotype" doesn't necessarily mean "problematic to acknowledge."

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