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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't wait for Azov to become the new Taliban and bite America in the ass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

File size requirements made me create this low res monstrosity lmao, also please do replace the Tilted Towers for the Palace of Culture and Sciences for thr more realistic scenario.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

bite America in the ass

It won't be America it bites in the ass; they'll be a deadly menace to their neighbors in the West (as I would imagine Russia is going to remain on its toes about armed Ukrainian militias). They've been pretty open about their far right views. Frankly this was actually a brilliant strategy for the government; much like how they turned the Middle East into nations yearning for America's protection, so too will the rest of (Western) Europe now become new clients. As a business strategy it's brilliant, my only question is why European governments and the idiots who vote for them over there actually going along with this; you're watching the car careening towards the cliff, why are you cheering the guy pushing it from behind rather than slamming on the brakes.

Even the Taliban didn't commit 9/11 until the US had already been engaged in military actions in Afghanistan for years by that point. War profiteering is the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh well... The amount of health risks that these rounds would cause would pale in comparison to the mines that the Orcs have planted everywhere. Anything to drive out the invaders!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Orcs

The only time before the Ukraine War that I saw this term used to refer to real human beings was on Stormfront

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libs saw the events unfolding and were all like "YES! Now I can do socially acceptable racism! ORCORCORCORCORCORC"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The mask fell off awful quick.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tankies shaking in their boots over that Abrams 120mm DU APFSDS slicing though Russian steel like butter.

It's so easy to trigger tankie bridgades. How many posts yall got about me now? Tagged me in a few!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Imagine having a brain so smooth that you think abrams are going to fare any better than the leopards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OP is known tankie just fyi. Doesn't justify US or Ukrainian actions but make sure you understand that the reason for posting this isn't out of any actual concern for human beings. They're also peddling covid conspiracies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So let me get this straight, according to you:

The people that don't support either side of the war and want to end it as fast as possible through peace talks are evil tankies.

And the bloodthirsty monsters that want to prolong a pointless war, arm Azov Nazis and kill as many people as possible with illegal inhumane weapons that scar generations are freedom-loving liberals.

Seems like the tankies are the more reasonable ones in this situation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting point, but have you considered Harry Potter?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just another piece of evidence that the west never actually cared about Ukraine or people living there. Ukrainians are just a pawn the west is using to try and weaken Russia with zero consideration for the lives of the people living there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the alternatives are heavy metal, which also aren't the greatest to breathe in. It's almost like war is aweful and this one shouldn't have been started in the first place, but here we are...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, the alternative is for the west to stop using Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real alternative is for Russians to go home. Who the fuck cares who's using them? They're being invaded. Russia didn't need to invade them, but they thought they could get away with it (again). This isnt the first invasion of a sovereign country Russia has done. It isn't even the first invasion of Ukraine. The US didn't get involved in the others. Are we just going to excuse those?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know why people keep repeating this. Do you honestly think this is a coherent point? Russia is obviously not going to go home no matter how many times you're going to repeat it. It's a meaningless and useless statement that literally solves nothing. Either NATO can defeat Russia or not, so far it looks like NATO is not able to do so. What NATO is accomplishing is prolonging the conflict without changing the outcome. That means more people dying and having their lives ruined so that US military industry can make a profit and so that US can try and weaken Russia geopolitically. Anybody who thinks the west is in this conflict to help Ukraine is an utter imbecile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should the US have sent supplies to the allies in WWI and WWII before joining? It was just prolonging the war and causing people to die, right?

The reason the US is doing it is not morality. Everyone knows that. International politics is never about morality, it's about power. However, that doesn't mean it isn't also the moral option.

Also, NATO and the US are not in the war. We're sending supplies. The US isn't even sending the good stuff. We're sending parts of our stockpile that's old and has just been sitting around waiting for a use. They haven't sent the newer technology so it it isn't studied in case a real enemy requires them to be used.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It takes an incredible amount of historical illiteracy to try and draw parallels between WW2 and the proxy war US is waging against Russia in Ukraine. However, if you weren't historically illiterate, then you'd also know that US companies continued working with the nazis well into the war, and IBM is famously responsible for facilitating the holocaust.

Also, NATO and the US are very obviously in this war, and one has to be utterly intellectually dishonest to pretend otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the US government was providing resources to the allies, was it good or bad? I'm not talking companies or anything else. You're dodging the question. There are enough parallels to draw a comparison. You just know what the answer would be and it conflicts with your beliefs, so you can't admit it, to yourself or others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When US government provides resources to these people, is it good or bad?

And this is why your comparison is historically illiterate. The actual comparison would be US funding the nazis in WW2. You're either ignorant of whom US is propping up in Ukraine or you're just dishonest. Either way not a good look.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still didn't answer the question. More What-aboutism. How unexpected! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did answer your question in detail, and it's safe to dismiss anybody who uses whataboutism as a form of argument. That's just a logical fallacy that imbeciles use to try and create a double standard.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You didn't, and I didn't use What-aboutism. I pointed out that you did. You said "what about...." What's wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You libs always want to demand every single historical event be perceived and analyzed in a vacuum. This is why you get mocked so often.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did, and you crying about whataboutism is what I'm referring to. Anybody who calls out whataboutism as a form of argument is engaging in intellectual dishonesty. The question you set up is fundamentally wrong, and you're fishing for an answer for that setup. This is like me asking you if you've stopped beating your wife.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that, in your opinion, calling out What-aboutism is "intellectual dishonesty" but using it is totally OK.

I also love that you say you both answered the question, and also that you didn't because it was wrong to ask.

This is like me asking you if you've stopped beating your wife.

That's be easy to answer for anyone being honest. It's either "I never did", "yes", or "no". Someone who want to hide something may not answer the question though, and likely they'll do something to throw people off, like attacking them for something they did instead (aka, "what about..."). It's avoiding the question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Calling whataboutism simply serves to set up a double standard for yourself and others. That's what makes it intellectually dishonest. Meanwhile, there is nothing intellectually dishonest about pointing out hypocrisy and double standards.

I also love that you say you both answered the question, and also that you didn’t because it was wrong to ask.

I answered your question by explaining to you in detail why the question is nonsensical. US is currently supporting fascists in Ukraine, trying to compare that to US supporting allies fighting against fascists in WW2 is backwards. The fact that you can't comprehend that says volumes.

That’s be easy to answer for anyone being honest. It’s either “I never did”, “yes”, or “no”. Someone who want to hide something may not answer the question though, and likely they’ll do something to throw people off, like attacking them for something they did instead (aka, “what about…”). It’s avoiding the question.

Once again you missed the whole point there which is setting up a false premise and then trying to get the other person to work within that premise. This is precisely what you did with your question. Pointing that out isn't avoiding the question it's calling out your bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. if Ukraine lose completely most of ukrainans living in Ukraine simply get extriminated or forcely assimilated.
  2. Russia started the war when invided Ukraine in 2014. not sure where the "using" is.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's just fractally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And what, let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything? Let them destroy a fledgling democracy? Right on the EU's and NATO's doorstep? Come on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fledgling democracy

lmao are you fucking kidding

and shit while we're at it, what the fuck do you think NATO has been doing its entire existence? it's been destroying -actual- fledgling democracies, you monstrously hypocritical ass

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

How do you think this is going to end exactly?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sure Ukrainians agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah i bet they want the war to end

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ukrainians that the regime has been abusing for the past 8 years sure do, here's some CNN reporting you might want to watch https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow I can't believe you'd post a video from known Moscow-backed front organization... CNN?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putin puppets have infiltrated the highest echelons of liberal media. That's the only plausible explanation for this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why though? Can't imagine that these rounds are going to change the course of the war, so why? Are they out of non-Uranium ones?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope the effectiveness is the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine being this bloodthirsty you're willing to let Ukrainians suffer the effects of depleted uranium just to kill more Russians

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"let" Ukrainians.

Your patronising colonial mask is slipping.

Ukrainians have ASKED for these weapons so they can get rid of the murderous, child torturing Russians out of their country.

Stop amplifying the propaganda of child torturers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Opposing the poisoning of masses of innocent people who had no say in the war is propaganda. I am very smart!" smuglord

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

it's kind of impressive how consistently we get the dumbest takes possible from lemmy.ee