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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

This is why a lot of sites have moved to something more complex than text, like the weird “rotate this to match” stuff that LinkedIn uses.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yeah captchas are done. Soon they will be easier to figure out for AI than for humans.

This is why Sam Altman is doing his worldcoin thingy with the iris scanners. His idea: One iris (well, two...) is one real human. I'm sure this will be abused though and I absolutely vehemently don't trust him with my biometrics so no way I will join that.

I think what we should do is just get used to the fact that the internet now consists of humans and AIs. Learn to take things with a grain of salt.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

pretty sure it's actually "p" not "P"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Based on the serif of the font I'd go with P as the ai says

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

most of those aren't case sensitive anyway

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I often got tripped up when there are caps but the input should forced to all lower but isn't. (This was a longstanding bug in reCapcha)

Ps: I'm totally not an AI or anything. Definitely a real person

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how that works on a Japanese captcha. I know people have had issues shortly after moving but not knowing the language at all yet trying to set some things up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With my troubles even with English ones they'd better just give me a knife.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

We are happy to provide your knife, but first please prove that you are human by completing the incantation as written...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Some disabled people have trouble with captchas, so these days you can download an extension where a robot solves the captcha for you.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Captchas te not meant to deter all bots. It's meant to make it ever so slightly expensive that a mass DDOS attack would be extremely expensive to perform. Think like thousand sof requests per second, all being Captcha'd and how much it costs to run AI. It's current not a feasible solution.

There is cheaper AI that can solve Captchas though, and it's only gonna get cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Also, captchas are meant to gather data to train on. That's why we used to have pictures of writing, but that's basically solved now. It's why we now have a lot of self driving vehicle focused ones now, like identifying busses, bikes, traffic lights/signs, and that sort of thing.

Captchas get humans to label data so the ML algorithms can train on it, eventually being able to identify the tests themselves.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I believe this is why Google, and a few other companies, have started using behavioral analysis to figure out if you are human. Did your mouse wonder around the page before clicking to verify? Did you come from another website as if browsing the web? What device are you using and have you used it on this site before? Are you logged into an account? I’m sure they use many more factors, but it’s something that would be hard to replicate with bot behavior on a consistent basis (for now).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Apple and Cloudflare are using “Private Access Tokens

Some negative implications for the open web I believe

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Basically yeah, but that has been the case since almost the start of recaptcha. Fingerprinting just got so good to the point that the visual test was not even needed anymore.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's long been cheap enough that you can pay a call center full of people in a developing country to solve them for you. Going to be a while before AI is cheaper than that.

Having used them to protect a few web sites from spammers filling up forms, they do cut down on the bullshit. This makes things more convenient for the people reading the information coming in from those forms, but I sometimes wonder if it's worth the cost of everyone else having to pick out the bicycles in the picture.

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