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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Israel is a terrorist state perpetrating a genocide

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I agree with the spirit of what you are saying but I think there is a real point to make about how Israel can't really be a terrorist state because it holds such an unequal power over its perceived enemies in Gaza both from the perspective of military might and also from the perspective of control over basic infrastructure like electricity and running water.

So long we see terrorism only through the lens of a morale choice to engage in warfare in a dishonorable way and not also as a form of armed resistance resorted to by actors who literally don't have the capacity to fight what we nebulously define as a war (which this current conflict is not, it is genocide), than we will always be unintentionally ceding the conversation to authoritarian rightwing hawks who can label anyone a terrorist for resisting a far superior military force.

Hamas are called terrorists primarily as a form of morale condemnation, and while in no way am I condoning terrorism it really has to be understood as first and foremost a military strategy undertaken by political actors without the capacity to fight a traditional war. The second Hamas amassed its troops (as required for any large military operation) Israel would carpet bomb the area. If Hamas rolled out a line of absurdly obsolete tanks with no optics, fire stabilization, night vision, or modern armor and with virtually no ammunition and tried to launch a ground war into Israel, rightwing/pro-Israel talking heads would supposedly find that more honorable than terrorism.... but obviously Israel would be able to utterly wipe that force off the face of the earth in minutes with the combined military industrial complex of the US and Israel.

Israel cannot be a terrorist state because its military can mount an armored offensive with some of the most advanced tanks in the world all the way through gaza and back while facing no serious resistance, with air superiority the whole time. When Israel commits violence, it is authoritarian state violence. It is genocide. I think calling it terrorism muddies the point. Terrorism is the attempt to create a political force when an actor does not possess control of a society, Israel possesses full physical control of Gaza.

I agree though, all the negative connotations you attribute to Israel by calling them a terrorist state I agree with!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been watching countless videos of unarmed civilians being shot and killed. Children running away and being shot. Mothers walking their children being sniped. Empty university buildings being filled with explosives and blown up. Hospitals being bombed and people being sniped through windows. There's basically no doubt left in my mind that the Israeli military and by extension the government are terrorist forces. In fact them killing more people than Hamas ever killed makes them the biggest terrorists in the region.

The only thing that can end this war is Americans flipping support and to stop obstructing the UN security resolutions. Unfortunately Genocide Joe is probably not watching the same news we all are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately Genocide Joe is probably not watching the same news we all are.

This is a weird comment as it implies that Joe Biden has less information about what is going on in Gaza than the average person who watches the news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He undoubtedly has more information about what's going on than most people who aren't there but he also has different motives. Where you or I might view genocide as unacceptable under any circumstances, he's viewing it through a lens of constantly needing to maintain and grow American power and resources. He believes that the US relationship with Israel furthers that goal so Israel performing genocide gets a pass. He rationalizes it by believing that whatever is (capitalism's definition of) good for America is good for all Americans.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

He probably goes straight to bed right after he verbatim reads whatever note Netanyahu gives him.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There's a long cut, and the camera zooms in on them before the shots. It's pretty easy to spot that there's context that is missing.

It's probably 50-50 if that context would change anything in reality, but the fact it's missing could mean anything from the cameraman just getting more background footage to the group putting away their firearms after taking potshots at soldiers. Most likely, it's somewhere in between all that and they were warned verbally to turn around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Hi. I see from your name you're a developer. I'm a combat veteran. There's no more context needed to determine this is a war crime they were slowly walking towards them with a white flag. At worst they should be taken prisoner and removed from the combat area quickly and safely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's all a conspiracy to malign the most moral army in the world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

thisishamas.com

You can bet many Hamas terrorists already put up a white flag, as IDF testimony say they were already tricked by false "white flags".

Heck, 3 hostages were killed by the IDF because it was near a fighting area, where Hamas terrorists used the same tactics as the hostages - writing in Hebrew, waving white flags, shouting for help.

The IDF either really suck at recognizing a threat (highly unlikely) or they learned from their mistakes of listening to anyone who isn't verified friendly.

This whole war is such a tragedy...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bro... Thisishamas . com is a website created by Israel. It's literally propaganda aimed at convincing you that Israel is justified in what they're doing. In no way is it trustworthy at all.

To be clear it's hosted in the US but wix is an Israeli owned software company.

The company was previously reported to encouraged employees to "create videos and creative campaigns" to "support Israel's narrative".

source

Also the website owner has redacted their name for privacy and all available information points to it being created by wix itself. source

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Its funny you go around to apologize for IDF while citzen of Israel, and news from Israel are criticizing what is going on.

It is okay, any military are most likely to commit war crime, instead of apologizing hold them responsible...

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