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I have been watching magnet fishing and people love to toss stuff over bridges without a second thought on the environmental impact. Hiding evidence I can almost understand but not lawnmowers, car batteries, etc.

It seems deeper fines should be made to discourage this terrible behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I see answers for why people dump junk, but not why they dump it on rivers/lakes in particular.

To remedy that: dumping junk isn't legal, and water is good at hiding things. If someone leaves their TV out on the street or whathaveyou, it might be traced back to them, but that's less likely in a river.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Laziness and/or poverty. It costs money to dump stuff like that legally most of the time. It also requires going somewhere usually not close to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Because if it's metal it's dense and will sink, and disappear quickly.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I doubt that anyone has researched the origin of such junk in detail.

If it doesn't fit in your rubbish bin, generally it costs time, effort and money to properly dispose of things. Tossing it off a bridge is efficient.

Likely there's a not inconsiderable proportion of anti-social behaviour, like stealing a bike and throwing it into a waterway afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mostly the second point. I would wager from experience that the majority of small man-portable conveyances that wind up at the bottom of lakes and rivers are there because they were stolen and thrown there. Bikes, motorcycles, rental scooters, shopping carts, etc. The reason is hooliganism, and the contributing factors are alcohol and teenagerhood.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just for the record, teenage hooligans-in my experience -are actually preferable to the adult hooligans.

Seriously. Teenagers might get drunk and do stupid shit but they’re scared of getting caught and run away. Many times they’ll even clean up after themselves if you’re not a total dick.

Adults tend to stand their ground and pick fights.

(Also, every demographic you care to name steal shit. Sobriety, income, race. None of it matters.)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

people are inherently lazy. fines are only for poor people.

if you want to solve the problem, provide an easy method for the general public to correctly dispose of shit, and let them know about it.

the issue being that that kind of social awareness and general action costs money, and conservatives would rather watch the world burn than have their taxes raised.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Lack of proper disposal facilities and/or fees for using said facilities. Easier to dump something in a lake or in the bushes than driving 40 minutes across town to a special facility and paying $30+ to dispose of it properly.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Everyone who disposes properly has to pay a fee. The only ones who have to pay the fine for dumping are those that get caught.

Solution: turn responsible disposal into a game, where if you can successfully sneak your trash to the correct section of the disposal center without anyone noticing, you get paid the amount you would have had to pay as a fee.

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