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New Lemmy Drama: "Feddit.org officially announces they will ban criticism of Israel and pro-Palestinian posts and comments."

I find this morally reprehensible. I have always spoken against defederazation when others have mentioned it. This is too much. Apologies if this upsets anyone.

Palestinians are human beings and have a right to life.

Edit: I have been persuaded by some thoughtful replies. I will block them from my view. I no longer support making the decision for others. Thanks all.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't want to defederate anything. What feddit is doing sounds super Orwellian and shitty, but so is .ml sometimes, and I still do stuff which seems positive over there. The thing that lead me to SDF in the first place was the low blocked/blocked by.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Agreed. I periodically check to confirm that SDF is not blocking other instances and feel pride at the free thought. That's part of why I changed my mind and amended the post. This is a topic that matters more to me than a lot of other reasons people on other instances have called for defedding. But rational arguments in the comments pulled me back. Thanks all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and anti-Hamas at the same time.

Similarly, it is possible to be pro-Jewish and anti-Israel at the same time.

They key is to be in favour of, and supporting, the innocent civilians that are NOT wielding hate and bigotry, and in direct and vociferous opposition to the power structures on BOTH sides that have looked true evil in the eye and said, “hold my beer and watch this”.

I am as anti-Hamas as I am anti-Israel. Both power/political structures are among the most reprehensibly evil orgs on the planet at this time.

I stand with the innocent civilians; with THE PEOPLE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Same - and it's weird to see so many leftists immediately jump to unconditional support for Hamas, who are literally a reactionary, religious fundamentalist force and who have done horrible things towards Palestinian people.

Armed resistance to Israel does not negate its evils or its reactionary internal role.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Banning certain actions and defederation; both are censorship and also patronization. I am against any form of censorship. There are very few exceptions, mainly malicious actions, which need to be banned to protect your users.

We all have the choice to hide certain terms, communities or servers. A much better way is to get confronted by it and actively protest to this kind of censorship. Share your views, your opinions in a non-offending way. Give the others the chance to get educated. If it fails, move on and enjoy your life somewhere else.

I know, my views are quite unpopular. But they are mine. Feel free to block me at any time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Politely disagree

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

If your comment contains the following, it will be removed from this community:

  • Calling for the dissolution of Israel, or calling for a one-state solution without specifying equal rights for all people; Jewish in particular.
  • Calling for a destruction, annihilation, an end of all Zionism or the like.
  • Equating Israeli actions and (historical) Nazism.
  • The slogan “from the river…”
  • Endorsement of or justifications for Hamas or Hezbollah, or slogans or graphics positively referring to these organizations. These are considered terrorist organizations in Germany.
  • … and obviously: Any of the common antisemitic tropes or calls to violence against Jews or Israelis

Comments will not be removed for the following:

  • Denouncing genocide.
  • Denouncing Israeli war crimes.
  • Criticizing Zionism as an ideology or political movement.
  • Referring to the current Israeli government as “criminal,” “expansionist,” or “far-right”.

pretty reasonable, admins can't change the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

fuuuuck that. there's only one kind of good zionist, just like there's only one kind of good nazi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

they cannot change the law, but also they don't have to follow the law because they aren't within that country's jurisdiction.

From what I've heard these are german laws and their instance is based in austria. Those are different countries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The slogan “from the river…”

Literally not a terrorist statement, sorry it just isn't and even including this makes it obvious how poorly thought through or examined Zionist's beliefs are. It should scare us all and I do not say that lightly.

If you will not resist your country deciding a statement is a terrorist belief when it provide zero actual evidence..the war is already lost and we are in for a hellish future.

The feddit admins are the worst flavor of morally bankrupt, which is cowardly AND morally bankrupt.