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[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

every base is not base ten, and i will fight you on this one.

binary is base two, or as i like to refer to it, the power of 2 base.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

In every base, a 1 in the second spot corresponds to the name of the base.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I like that the alien has 4 fingers. Fitting!

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I get this comic which is about translation errors.

Comments are wildly off ....

....BASE!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

not base 1100; and it's round!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Only when written, which is the whole point of notation. "Ten" is still a fixed amount, and so is four.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

even when written out non base ten systems, are still possible to be non base ten.

It's only base ten when you convert from one base system to another. We are merely referencing between two base systems when we say that 4 bits is "16" because there are 16 possible options there. 16 is just our conceptualized version and conversion of that base system, in ours. You can read binary as if it's just powers of 2, it's incredibly trivial.

octal and hex are the best example of this, because octal skips numbers while counting. Hex introduces letters. Neither of which fly even remotely sanely through base ten. Unless you're converting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

"ten" is a fixed amount in base 10. A base 4 user may have an entirely different naming system for numbers above 3, so "ten" (which is written as 22 in base 4) could be twenty two, twoty two, dbgluqboq, or Janet. But similarly to how we don't have a single syllable, dedicated number name for decimal 22 (as in, it's composed of the number names 'twenty' and 'two'), they may not have a single syllable, dedicated number name for decimal 10 (which is '22' in base 4).

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Huh, that's a good point. A better universal naming system would be something like "Base x+1", with x being one integer lower than 10. So humans would use Base 9+1, and the alien would use Base 3+1.

*This has been on my mind all day and the more I think about it, the more obvious it becomes how fundamentally terrible the name "Base-10" is. How did this never occur to the people who coined the term? Even the system I suggested is flawed as it's still trying to incorporate the same bad logic.

A better system would be something like Base 9, stopping shy of the respective 10 in each system, or if it needs to be clarified, Base 9+0, as 0 is the extra digit in the first place, not 10.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about Roman numerals?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

we'd only be able to represent bases for numbers with one digit though because what does base 15+1 mean? the 15 could be in any base higher than 5. the clearest way would probably be to just represent it with lines or something "base ||||||||||"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

wait until you find out about hexadecimal systems. It turns out we already have words for referring to numbers lol.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Base 16 is typically represented with letters being used as the extra numerals, so it would end up being F+1. Problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Base 16

Do you mean Base G?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

All your base are belong to us

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's only 15 to us because we use base 10 (or 9+1). Like how we have 4 through 9, but that aliens in the picture only count up to 3.

In the case of a mismatch, the culture using the higher base would just translate down (Base 21+1 in the given scenario).

Single units would probably be the simplest method, but also wildly impractical as the base gets higher. You really want to count each digit just to figure out someone uses Base 100?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

that's fair, translating down is a good idea

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Base is for running on after hitting the ball.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are 10 types of people: Those who understand binary and those who don't.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And those who didn’t expect the joke to be in base 3

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You forgot the ones who expected it to be in base 4.

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