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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

This reminds me of a government scheme some ten years ago or so. Workfair it was called, or something.

In short, someone claiming job seekers allowance would be required to work something like 10 hours a week for a company such as Tesco, or Poundland in order to be eligible for their welfare payments. On the face of it, fair enough. The person gets some work experience and the possibility of being hired.

Except all it really did was provide free labour to companies whose profits were in the billions. And that labour was paid by the tax payer.

And no one in the government at the time either saw how bad that might look, or more likely, cared.

I still think about that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And the Walton family sponsored the no kings protest!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a somewhat misleading summary

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-walmart-heiress-nyt-protest-ad/

While Walton inherited a 1.9% stake in Walmart following her husband's 2005 death, according to Forbes, a spokesperson for Walmart told Snopes via email that Walton has no involvement in the business.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell that to her 20b net worth

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's irrelevant to the point that "The walton family sponsored" is misleading when it looks like it was just one person who's only a member of the family by marriage, with no current involvement in the business, and when walmart itself explicitly distanced itself from her on this topic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I literally didn't say Walmart did I?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You said "Walton family", which is technically correct but misleading because it's only one person. The statement made by walmart is more representative of the family majority.

Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes split hairs to defend the billionaires

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You could admit you weren't entirely correct. It's okay.

And you're doing the work of billionaires here by discouraging people from protesting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was actually correct, a member of the Walton family is bankrolling a protest named "No kings" literally the oligarchy funding protests.

Protest away, it's definitely not all part of project 2025 👍

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"technically correct, the best kind of correct" is a joke and not an aspiration.

What do you suggest? Staying home and doing nothing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bro you're the one claiming I was wrong, I didn't make this into a whole back and forth, you did.

The technically correct joke is when someone comes in and nit picks something, exactly what you're doing.

I do not see how the protests have actually accomplished anything over the past two decades I've been paying attention.

The protests against the war in the middle east, we didn't pull out until Biden

Occupy Wallstreet, literally nothing happened

Black Lives Matter, literally nothing happened

First trump admin lots of protests, literally nothing happened

Defund the police, hey it's like they have more money now somehow

All the trump 2 protests, what has actually been accomplished?

I do think protests can work, but these are all too disjointed with no real end goal in sight and I find it mighty suspicious when some of them are funded by billionaires yes.

The same billionaires who happily keep us fighting amongst ourselves while they loot the treasury and slide us further toward facism.

What we need is an actual movement united in a common goal and working in lock step, something the proud boys et all figured out on the right years ago and clearly actually worked for them

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What we need is an actual movement united in a common goal and working in lock step

Well at least we agree on this.

I often feel like the protests are performative, and never move onto the next steps of "we're withholding our labor until things improve" or what have you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is one of the reasons I am so angry with the dnc, the ones who ostensibly should be harnessing the clear energy that exists for good instead just does fuck all and then when the next election comes around holds it over our heads like "we'll seriously do it this time guys for real"

Protests, to me, show there is energy there to be harnessed, the protest itself isn't going to solve anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All those 'protests' are coordinated by the oligarchy as pressure release values because they know the public is at a tipping point for rejecting both right wing parties and their policies, preventing organic protests from rising and creating a threat to their existence. They allow voters to blow some steam while giving the illusion they are participating in democracy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"All civil unrest is actually corporate psyops" is certainly a take.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

If that's what you took out of my comment, you need to reevaluate it. Need. He's no King protests are neutering actual protest

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

They unironically live in NWA and refuse to acknowledge the humor. They’re not human.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I verified the number because it doesn't sound quite right. Walmart makes profit of roughly $20B yearly, per day that is $55M, the family owns around half.

So they make like $25M per day.

That is still insane amount of money, and probably also they do some tricks to lower the profit and hide the money through some loopholes, like all the millionaires/billionaires.

Nobody needs that kind of money, so they should be taxed like hell, but not in this world

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

but not in this world

That is until people take measures into their own hands

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It could

If it were done right. Just as Communism really really would end poverty and save the world and bring equality for all if juuuust done right.

I gettit, capitalism as done now (especially in the US) is a joke where the rich leech the poor and destroy the world

Tax the shit out of them. Leave capitalism be, but put up taxes in brackets that hits 100% after 10M net worth. This way, you still have the raw resource making power of captialism, but the richest anyone can get is 10 million networth.

Similarly for companies, once they get bigger, taxes go up untill it hits, say, a billion in net worth.

No company shall be too big to fail, too big to not steal, lie, and cheat, too big to be a net positive for humanity

This way governments end up with huge tax incomes. Use that tax for free healthcare for all, same with education, housing, public transportation, all free, even universal income

I think that'll work a whole lot better than "let's try communism" which simply won't happen and it would destroy us all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

You're confusing capitalism and commerce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It could

If it were done right. Just as Communism really really would end poverty and save the world and bring equality for all if juuuust done right.

Yeah! All it takes is a fundamental change in human nature where we eradicate greed. Funnily enough, that one little trick fixes both Capitalism AND Communism and allows us to finally reach utopia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Communism really really would end poverty

Name communism that didn't significantly reduced poverty

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

What I hear out of all that is I don't mind the exploitive nature of capitalism as long as it doesn't exploit me.

All those words and you could have just said I don't understand socialism or communism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Won't they just pay politicians to make sure this never happens?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Aren't they already doing that?
Aren't they the politicians?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Seems to work for the Walmart guys

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