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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

What's with the Biden stanning, Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Sorry that some of us don't want to live under a fascist regime?

Or do you prefer "Sorry that some of us are willing to recognize when the current administration does something right, especially when 99% of the useful idiots swarming every post are some variant of 'Not Trump isn't enough, what has the Biden administration actually DONE for us?'"

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bidens protected acres havent even lasted past his first term. Millions of acres of previously protected land got put for sale exclusively for oil and gas extraction.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This phrasing is so weaselly you baited me into fact-checking it. Congratulations!

on track to

meaning it's crediting Biden with things that haven't happened yet? I didn't investigate how many future acres he needs to make this meme true.

more land ... first-term persident

The Pacific Remote Islands are much larger, but mostly water. Created by Dubya, expanded by Obama, both times in their respective second terms.

modern

Personally, I'd have counted Carter as modern. His Alaska Conservation Act weighed in at 157 million acres. I think that one got Congressional approval too, so maybe they're only counting land protected by executive fiat.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

I appreciate this

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (8 children)

All these "Biden is not perfect enough" comments everywhere on lemmy are quite disappointing. Start to sound like propaganda.

No one, surly not a politician, can be good enough in the eyes of purists. (And the conclusion is obvious of course)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Bro really called purists people who are not ok with the biggest humanitarian crisis of the 21st century.

Not to mention how he hasn't fixed any internal problems, he just didn't make things a lot worse, which is a pretty low bar to begin with.

Like in this case, we are fucking light years away from anything even remotely close to saving the environment and reversing the damage we have done, yet we have to applaud this party for not making things even worse? Like, have you seen what environmental scientists say about the situation we are in?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No one is claiming that they are upset because he isn't perfect. Writing a blank check for Israel to kill tens of thousands of civilians is an act that most Democrats aren't happy about.

He is acting in ways that his constituents dislike, the way they show their contempt is by criticizing his actions. What about that is propaganda?

It doesn't take a purist to understand that enabling a right winged government to partake in an ethnic cleansing isn't exactly progressive policy.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

D- do you think this meme isn't propaganda?

We're allowed to call out BS in our politicians when we see it, even the ones we voted for and plan of voting for again.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It’s not exactly Biden’s fault that he’s being propped up and foisted upon us by the establishment, but they really picked a poor candidate for an election that is supposedly the most important one of our lives. Almost like the DNC doesn’t mind losing.

Consider AZ, where a dem senate candidate is up in polling, and Biden is down by like 12 points. For that matter, polls show him losing in every swing state, which is where it matters due to electoral college bs. Or just the fact that he is now frequently confusing things he did as vice president with things he’s done as president, while publicly speaking. He even still gets confused about his son dying in war, which didn’t happen…Beau died at home from a brain aneurysm.

For the good of the nation, we need a few more degrees of separation between “good enough,” and one foot in the grave.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Protected more" is a meaningless metric. The threat of destruction is not eliminated with a one-time response, but they're acting like it is.

I could get the same results by saying "I hereby threaten the entire planet with destruction unless I get a soda in the next few minutes."

"Oh, I got one? I guess that means I saved the planet."

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except Biden actually could protect a lot less. Your planetary threat is just a delusion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, let me try again:

"I'm a big greedy oil company and I want 10% of your public land." "Ok. Here you go!" Meme: Biden gives oil company everything they want!

That would look bad, so instead we get:

"I'm a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land." "What!? No. You can only have 10%." Meme: Biden saves 90% of public land!

But in this case it's closer to:

"I'm a big greedy oil company and I want ALL of your public land." Trump: "I'll see what we can do." ~4 years later~ Biden: "Hey, can we cancel that?" Meme: Biden set to be greatest conservationist president in history, possibly time itself

You can skew stories dramatically when you focus on one detail.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

k- was there another first-term president that you think actually deserves more credit or you just got this triggered because someone said a positive sounding thing about Biden?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you think "the amount of conserved land for first-term presidents" is a metric ANY of us thought or cared about before this meme? What's the point of it?

I was definitely triggered on how many qualifiers were needed for a single point of data to be extracted for comparison. *over *Public lands *in 2023

*On track to *more ____ than *modern *first-term

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

willow project.

Trusting Biden on climate…. Is a two edged sword that cuts you twice. Like those cheap razors with extra blades…

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gee it’s almost like he didn’t break a major campaign promise months after reaching the whitehouse to do it

Gee it’s also like climate change isn’t an existential threat to society.

You’re “balancing disparate interests” include almost exclusively corporations and almost completely ignore the fucked legacy being left behind by Biden (whose been a leader in politics longer than I’ve been alive and definitely deserves some ire here,) and politicians like him.

The willow project is a text book example of him breaking his word and supporting oil companies (who didn’t even ask for it to be picked back up,) in favor of literally supporting our collective grandkids ability simply fucking exist in a comfortable world.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

From the very fucking source I posted:

Some Alaska Natives are critical of the drilling ban across such a significant swath of the NPR-A. It has proved controversial with Alaska’s bipartisan congressional delegation, as well as Alaska Native groups who say they depend on the tax revenue from oil drilling to fund schools and basic services.

The final rule “does not reflect our communities’ wishes,” said Voice of the Arctic Iñupiat President Nagruk Harcharek, adding the move “will hurt the very residents the federal government purports to help by rolling back years of progress, impoverishing our communities, and imperiling our Iñupiaq culture.”

The ban will also open the president to attacks from Republicans that he is failing to prioritize American energy independence and is driving up the price of gasoline. But under Biden’s tenure, the US is producing more oil than any country in history, CNN Business reported, and gas prices are down $1.35 from their all-time high in June 2022.

In addition to protecting a vast amount of the NPR-A on Friday, the Biden administration moved to block the Trump administration-approved Ambler road in the Alaskan wilderness. If built, the road would serve as the access point for a proposed copper mine. The administration signaled it wanted to take “no action” on the mine, effectively blocking the road’s access to federal land.

In a statement, Ambler Metals, the company seeking to mine copper in the region, said it was “deeply disappointed” in Interior’s decision. Ambler’s managing director Kaleb Froehlich said the move would deprive local communities of jobs and tax revenue and prevent the US “from developing a domestic supply of minerals that are critical for clean energy technology and national security.”

The Alaska announcements cap off a week that saw a flurry of actions from Biden’s Interior Department. On Thursday, the department announced a new rule that elevated conservation to put it on equal footing as other public land uses like grazing, mining and other energy development. The new conservation rule covers 245 million acres largely in the Western United States – about a tenth of the land in the nation.

But sure, it's just all the big bad corpos, they're all on one side, and the people are on another. Anyone who does anything that helps the corpos is just their slave. Politics is delightfully simple, it would seem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Gee, wouldn't be awesome if we could just, you know, fund schools?

naw. That's too easy. and too "socialist" even though it's probably less expensive than, you know, all the damage that will be caused... this year... by massive fires, extremely intense storms or other things affected by (and affecting) climate change.

Edit: side note, how much do you think corporations spent to make sure their tax revenue was funding people's public schools? how much do you think they spent to let people know that?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Gee, wouldn’t be awesome if we could just, you know, fund schools?

Goodness, why didn't Biden think of that? With a stroke of his pen, he could have solved all of these issues! Raised taxes, changed state laws for funding schools, and united all the necessary Federal apparatuses to change with it, and everyone would have cheered and toasted his name! Goodness, I'm so glad that's how our government works! One man, once elected, can lawfully remake the nation as he sees fit, no other elected officials or separation of powers or bureaucratic processes involved!

naw. That’s too easy. and too “socialist” even though it’s probably less expensive than, you know, all the damage that will be caused… this year… by massive fires, extremely intense storms or other things affected by (and affecting) climate change.

Yes, it's fucking ridiculous. That's not the same as saying "Man who isn't High Supreme Dictator For Life hasn't done it because he's in the pocket of THE CORPOS"

People have interests, and those interests are often tied up in institutions and processes that are not able to be changed by one official, not even the highest official in the fucking land. Sorry that the process of government isn't quick and easy, and unfucking it is a massive undertaking that takes longer than a lunch break.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nationwide, around 10% of funding for schools is public. In Alaska it was 7% in 2020. You're right in saying it would take an act of congress. Biden loves taking credit for acts of congress, though. so he can take credit for that, too. Further, he was a senator for longer than I've been alive. His leadership in the DNC has shaped the nation and is a large, if not-exclusive, part of how we got into this mess.

but do go ahead, insist it's NoT BiDeN's FaUlT when a) he has a very long track record that is a significant part of the problem and b) while he can't act unilaterally, he largely hasn't acted in any meaningful way.

Literally the only justification for voting for Biden is that trump is worse. that's not an argument for Biden... and after a certain point you have to wonder if maybe that's the reason he didn't pressure his DoJ to hurry the fuck up with trump indictments... you know... for fucking espionage... or even the entire reason Trump is allowed to be a political candidate at all.

But sure the guy whose done nothing for decades... he's gonna save us with some parks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Biden loves taking credit for acts of congress, though. so he can take credit for that, too.

Oh, okay, yes, that's the problem, Biden just didn't realize he could take credit for something that Congress did. Good thing Congress would definitely be onboard with it, included a supermajority in the Senate.

and after a certain point you have to wonder if maybe that’s the reason he didn’t pressure his DoJ to hurry the fuck up with trump indictments… you know… for fucking espionage… or even the entire reason Trump is allowed to be a political candidate at all.

Jesus fucking Christ.

And you wonder why this whole line of thinking is seen as deeply unserious.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're conflating Biden with the totality of human civilization here, or just not understanding what protecting public land means in the context of US government action.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

No no, I get that US corporations ask for public land for privatized gains all the time, and keep increasing how much they ask for when they get it. The number of requests keeps going up, so the number of refusals going up isn't shocking.

Did you realize that almost 11 million acres of the 12.8 million of 'conservation' were simply rollbacks from the Trump era to the Obama era? He had 2 years to so that, but waited until 2023. Edit:Source

My point is that it's a single metric and out of context does not actually tell you why they were threatened to begin with. I.E. maintaining the status quo does not warrant a medal. Still voting for him.

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