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  • Mozilla has issued a warning about Microsoft's design practices, claiming that the company uses harmful design tactics to influence users to switch to its Edge browser.
  • The report highlights how Microsoft interrupts the installation process of Google Chrome on Windows devices, promoting the security and privacy benefits of Edge.
  • Mozilla calls for regulatory action to restore browser choice and competition across major platforms.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/koBY6


Chrome

Windows

Well there's your problem!

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Whenever I'm forced to use Edge for work it reminds me of old IE that your grandma installed the Ask toolbar in. Functions about the same too.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The clickbait in this article is so bad, I thought it was a security vulnerability or something, but it's just something else related to Mozilla again.

I'm still genuinely curious if Mozilla is going to actually accept a renewal for the search deal with Google, or if they're actually going to start practicing with a praise and try implementing that search engine selection screen.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

or if they're actually going to start practicing with a praise and try implementing that search engine selection screen.

You already can change the default search engine?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago

practicing with a praise

Not sure what you mean but maybe you were going for "practicing what they preach"?

[–] [email protected] 166 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Microsoft really wants someone to remind it of these days:

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (17 children)

I don't remember that. Where is it from?

Microsoft never liked competing browsers (not even in the pre-IE6 era when all they had was crap), so it's hard to believe it came from them.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I like that part of firefox's summary was that it's free. Uh, yeah, they all are. Thanks Mozilla!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Opera originally wasn't free.

Also, while it is chromium based, Vivaldi is excellent and is essentially a bunch of old Opera team members.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago

Well, its not proprietary

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I updated my proton app recently and as I was updating it Microsoft edge updater tried installing updates as well for some reason.

I don't even have edge installed. I simply blocked it from having net access but still, they can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut if they think I'm putting that on my system.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

One time I uninstalled Edge and Cortana from Win10. Some time later Windows Updates started to fail and would rollback. This continued for 6 months and by that time I stopped giving a shit since Win10 is malware anyway.

Another few months went by and I was bored enough to follow the usually useless links to MS knowledge base articles that are given after a failed update.

After another week of trying everything I came across or could think of, I downloaded the install for Edge and reinstalled. Ran the Windows Update again and the god damned thing was successful. Apparently it contained an Edge-specific update but didn't check if it was installed or not and fail gracefully if it was the latter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

they can go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut if they think I’m putting that on my system.

The only way to be serious about that is to not use Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'd like to flip to Linux, but I have an older nvidia card that doesn't play well with it, so until I upgrade some hardware win 10 will have to do. At least I'm firewalled so I can block their shit when it tries shenanigans like that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The worst thing Microsoft has done with Edge, was how they tried telling everyone it wasn't Internet Explorer, while using very similar icons for the longest time. Edge functioned a lot like Internet Explorer in how unstable and shitty it was.

Still is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Edge is just a modified Chrome, so it's not all that bad now, but Microsoft needs to stop micromanaging what people do with computers. The consumer bought it. It should be their PC, not Microsoft's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Seriously, Microsoft needs to get out of their own way with the marketing and just make a good product instead of trying to force all these things on people. They'd get a lot less negative attention if they just focused on the browser. The times I've tried it, it wasn't bad but I now refuse to use it out of spite for their forcing it on you.

This is also a problem with them overall. They've improved so many things in modern Windows under the hood (e.g. we've gone from installing drivers for every component to needing practically nothing installed manually due to it doing it for you, it rarely bluescreens anymore in my experience, winget is nice) but then they ruin it with stuff like going backwards on the default apps screen (in 10 it was easy to set for common apps like browser/email/media/etc, in 11 its per protocol/file). Making it difficult to switch browsers or using Edge anyways for some things and ignoring the default just pisses people off for no good reason.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Legit malware shown in this article. Imagine an operating system/browser injecting what are essentially ads into your webpage. Whether or not chrome or edge are any good these are scummy tactics by microsoft

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a super clickbait title.

Yes, what Microsoft does is pretty shitty but the article sounds like there's some massive zero day hack or something to watch out for when it's just standard business practice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. I would've changed it except I had in the back of my mind that the post title needed to match the article title, but now I don't see that in the rules. Oh well. But yeah the article is not really about Chrome at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

You know what else is different about Lemmy? Post titles are editable!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

What is this clickbait bullshit? Here I was expecting more arguments I could use to move people away from Chrome, but the warning is just typical Microsoft trying to promote their own garbage browser.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, team nobody on this one. You both suck and need to stop what you're doing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Microsoft ~~Edge~~ Death Grip

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago

Microsoft really trying to get away with what it did in the browser wars again, but it's probably gonna turn out on for them this time

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