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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hi,

Sorry if this has been posted before but I'm looking at trying Usenet instead of torrents.

I've done some Googling and honestly, it's a little overwhelming knowing what Usenet provider to use, where to get quality indexers and which download client would be the best.

If anyone has any resources or advice to help me sail the Usenet seas I would be eternally grateful!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why replace torrents? Why not use both? It's a bonus if your usenet provider includes a VPN.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Sabnzbd for downloading, Frugal usenet for provider, Nzbgeek and drunkenslug for indexer

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How much does all that cost? Or rather, does all that cost? I currently torrent but could see getting into Usenet if I don't have to provide payment info.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sabnzbd is free, you can install anywhere basically. The rest is not free unfortunately, someone has to host the files, as there are no peers in usenet. I think some, if not all, providers and indexers can be paid with crypto or even mailing them the money by post.

Provider is €50 a year. Indexers are around €10 a year, but there are lifetime subscriptions for some.

In return, you don’t need a VPN, download speeds are stable and there is no seeding.

Out of 220 files downloaded, I only needed torrents 12 times, rest is usenet.

Read up on benefits of one over the other before switching :)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only get Usenet with a usenet deal. Usually on/around Black Friday.
Afaik deals are usually posted on r/UsenetDeals or similar called sub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Good to know, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you're planning to download media, check out the Server Wiki. It has guides on setting up all the software to automate the process.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thanks, but I am currently using Radarr and Sonarr, just looking at alternate potentially faster sources

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

DM me if you want invites to private indexers. They are paid but cheap. I also recommend frugal Usenet because...well...I'm cheap.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the advantage of a private indexer vs a regular one? Why would I want one over another? I'm a complete Usenet newbie.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'll bite. What is frugal Usenet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Just a cheap Usenet provider. They're cheap for what the provide but in my opinion on par with the more expensive "premium" providers. https://frugalusenet.com/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Cool, thanks. $5 -$6 / month is cheap.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What are the advantages of usenets?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

You’re downloading from servers not other people, so you don’t have to worry about the number of peers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

It's great, although a little unfair, and perhaps illegal in some draconian jurisdictions, to use nets while fishing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You can see the discussions that inspired the Comic Book Guy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Higher and better retention of old stuff.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In Germany they provide relief from the constant fear your vpn might leak and you'll receive mail.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Expensive mail.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure about anything, but the client, as I've been usenetting without thinking much about stuff for almost a decade now.

  • eweka.nl (share your access with friends and family - I've shared mine with like 8 people some time in the past)
  • nzbgeek (lifetime API access was like 30€ - well worth it), I also know about nzbplanet, but I don't have a premium account there. You can try these out without paying to see if their offer suits what you're looking for, but you won't get API access of course and you'll be limited in the downloads.

Last, but not least: sabnzbd is the gold standard for clients. Runs on everything: from a raspberry pi to your Desktop PC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s 80 for lifetime now, 12 for a year

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You never know how long these sites are able to stay up in the future, but it's still way less than what I've payed on patreon over time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, compared to streaming, 80 for even a year is a bargain lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Lol, true. Although that doesn't include the provider fees, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! I'll give that stuff a look!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You may also want to look into NZBget (download client) and nzb360 for mobile management if you happen to be an Android user -- or LunaSea either way.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Do you tunnel your usage through a VPN?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I do. Just in case.
Ironically through my seedbox provider :p

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Most Usenet providers offer secure connections so I don't know if it's necessary, but I use a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Nope. Usenet is quite safe legally, afaik, since you're not uploading/seeding anything. IANAL, though.

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