Usenet is old and centralized so a lot easier to shut down and is payed because you pay for server retention and access.
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Usenet is considered decentralized, it is made up of many independent servers that talk to each other. take one down, and the rest continue on without problems.
yes only with participating servers so the network is a lot smaller like only servers from one provider peer to peer is a lot more limited and slower. usenet now is just extensions build on top of the original protocol like NZB files.
Everyone who is paying for pirating is doing things wrong. Don't be stupid.
A lot of people are pirating not because of the money, but the horrible service of the streaming platforms
Doesn't matter. Pirating AND paying for it is something only a fool would do. Don't be a fool.
I use Premiumize, multihoster for most popular Filehoster with access to Usenet, Torrent and VPN. Usenet retention is about 1200 days. It has 1TB of Cloud Storage and you can use their inbuilt Downloader on their website to download stuff straight to their cloud (or your own Mega or Google Drive cloud if you prefer that), so you don’t have to install any Torrent or Usenet clients. (This is not an ad, I just really like their service and been using it for 3 years)
Sabnzb or NZBGet are good choices if you wanna use some client on your own. Just don’t use Momentum, they will steal your credentials.
Most popular indexers are NZBIndex, Binsearch and NZBKing but I prefer Boards like nzbgrabit, nzbforyou or The Hive.
I have never heard of any of those indexers there's no way those are the most popular
I guess it depends on where you’re from. As a German I only use the 3 biggest German NZB boards which are also free to use and they all redirect us to the downloads of the indexers mentioned. That's why I assumed they were the biggest.
I just found out they're not and that there's way more popular indexers which you have to pay for which is hilarious to me.
Hilarious? Why are you so smug? Those indexers have so much more than the ones you listed
Just a quick note that the dev for NZBGet stopped work on it a year or two ago. Probably better to stick with Sabnzb.
The dev did sanction the NZBGet fork tho (nzbgetcom/nzbget). So there is still a viable and actively developed NZBGet application for those who want it
Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.
I switched in the fall, black Friday deals on account and several indexers. Looks like it's gonna be just at $100ish per year. After configuring an arr ecosystem with overseer handling all user interaction and automation, I don't think I'll ever go back. Totally worth the price imho
That's what I've done. The arr suite is pretty damn convenient. Last time I did this I had to manually go fetch everything myself.
Keeping my eyes peeled for deals and things but may have to bite the bullet and just pay for one to at least try it out
You set this up in docker? I've been fighting docker all day, finally trying to set up some arr stuff. I'm not convinced that docker is the right way to go.
It's absolutely the right way to go, have my whole stack setup with docker compose.
I have mine set up outside of docker
Same. I got lifetime memberships to 3 usenet provides but the *arr suite gets ~95% of my media from nzbgeek. Now the only recurring cost is for my provider. Downloads are so much faster and reliable than torrenting, and the automation is amazing.
faster only depends on the server automation is easier too because it all comes from one central server. this also means its easier too shut down just look at all the Usenet providers that have been sued and closed down. downloads of torrents go faster the more people use it and download seed also depends on the internet connection of the people in the swarm. if enough people seed a torrent it will always be faster then a central sever that is bottle necked with how many connections it can handle at a time and is very hard to shut down because as long as one person is still seeding you can still download and you could build up the users of the swarm again. with usenet you can shut everything down by taking one server down and your paying money for it to so if this happens you also loose your money and then better hope you did not pay with a credit card because now they have your info too.
I jumped into Usenet as an experiment and, once it was setup, it was ok. Although it is definitely not simple to get started and it seems you are constantly having to pay for stuff, even to access the trackers, which don't even have all the content!
I decided I didn't download enough and what I wanted was too hard to find, so I went back to Torrents. Way simpler for my occasional use.
Yeah I had the same experience. Tried it out, found it way too fiddly to set up, had to pay for stuff at every turn (and managing a bunch of subscriptions is a big part of why I hate using streaming platforms in the first place) and I really didn't find it to be worth it just to cover the tiny fraction of things I can't find on torrents (and which TBH I didn't even find there anyway.) Went back to torrents as it's like 2 clicks to download something and it covers 95% of what I need anyway.
To be fair, it's entirely possible that I was just doing it wrong and not getting optimal results, but also I don't want to start over and pay for a bunch of other stuff to find out.
You forgot the first rule.
You'll have to enlighten me, I'm a little out of touch after going straight for a while haha
You don't talk about Usenet.
It's similar to rule number two.
Ah, like another club that we can't talk about
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