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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (6 children)

LET THEM JOIN IDAHO!!!

CASCADIA NOW!!!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Idaho?

Prediction: Literally everything they are complaining about, will be an instance where they're unhappy about the will of the majority of Oregonians

Brb

Edit: Yeah pretty much

Crook county voted for Donald Trump, a Republican governor, against decriminalising drugs and against restrictions on gun ownership. The state went the other way every time.

Fuckin' democracy

They want to get rid of agriculture

you need to drive an electric car

Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that my government would say, ‘You can’t go to church.’”

IDK, man. I do kind of get it; I think the underlying complaint is probably more just that no one likes feeling like everyone in their community looks at it one way, and there's a force from outside preventing them from doing it that way when they mostly want to (like drug legalization, or having to wear masks or closing churches during Covid). That part honestly does make some sense to me.

I'd be curious how much is some real agriculture or legislative issue where they actually were being overridden, and how much is culture-war bullshit that doesn't impact their daily lives in any way except when they see it on the propaganda-news that's trying to get them all riled up. But I had more sympathy reading about it than I thought I would.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 6 months ago (14 children)

“We have a constitution that lays down the laws for us. As a republic, the individual is protected. So the minority can be protected. It’s not just majority rules.”

"We don't like that the majority that we don't agree with rules. We want a christofascist theocratic dictatorship where the minority we agree with rules.

They don't like democracy because they don't win.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's the thing I've never understood about the "tyranny of the majority" folks, they're just arguing that we should do what fewer people think is the right thing to do and that seems objectively worse. If a majority of people disagree with you then you either work to change their minds or be introspective and see if you need to change yours. Sometimes you'll have to suck it up and deal with the fact that neither of those options will work but that's just the way it is. There is no alternative that works in the long term.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There is such a thing as a tyranny of the majority but it’s just why we need ironclad rights

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The problem is the supremacy of the individual ideology. They don't see themselves as members of a society who have to compromise to get along.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I believe in the rights of the individual, which is why I support free health care, education, and housing for all, so that every individual has a chance to succeed, no matter where they come from.

"No, not like that."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Under a large tent at the Crook county fairgrounds in Prineville, Oregon, six people stand in a neat line, each clutching the gun in their holster.

The presidency of Donald Trump and the Covid pandemic have heightened divisions – with different groups starkly diverging on how they think the state should move forward.

Moving the state lines is a tall order, given that both Oregon and Idaho legislatures would have to agree, along with the respective governors, and then for Congress to approve the matter.

He and his wife lived in Portland, Oregon’s largest city, for 20 years before moving east because on “almost every issue”, abortion, LGBTQ+, guns, drugs, McCaw was opposed to the progressive measures enacted by state legislators.

Outside the courthouse one Sunday, I chatted with Priscilla Smith, chair of the county’s Democrats, who was leading a small rally against the Greater Idaho movement.

Mike McCarter, the president of the Greater Idaho movement, was leading a prayer at the start of a question-and-answer session hosted by McCaw at the Crook county library in Prineville.


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