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Microsoft is trying to restore Bing as the default search engine on users' browsers by spinning it as a "repair" through a utility app called PC Manager.

PC Manager is designed to boost a Windows PC's performance by freeing up memory and eliminating unused apps and files. It offers "Health check" and "Repair tips" buttons, which users can click on to see the recommended actions.

However, Windows Latest noticed the app pushing a curious recommendation: Both Repair tips and Health check nudge you to restore Bing as the default search engine on the Edge browser.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

You know, this is a useful tool when you're clearing a malware infection. Everyone seems to be assuming this is fully automatic, but it requires you to accept the change before it commits.

Of course, since everyone here is rabidly anti-Microsoft, anything MS does is automatically the worst thing in existance.

Edit: In this case, it is providing the option to reset Edge's search and home settings back to "known safe" defaults. If you had this tool let you set anything, that's an attack surface that can be exploited by a "tech" from India or a malware running counterops to prevent removal.

Worst case, you use another browser, since clearly Microsoft is the devil and you shouldn't use Edge anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I think the branding as a "repair" is meant to mislead uninformed users but I am totally with you, I would LOVE to get a list of settings that are going to change after an update so I can approve them. I can't tell you how many times a random update reverts something I set up ages ago when I installed windows. Most of the time I may not notice the setting change for a while, until one day a feature doesn't work as I expect it to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The issue is that they're taking a tool with actual legitimate use cases, particularly maintenance and repair uses, and turning it into something to just push their own service. It'd be like a doctor saying you can only be healthy if you use his brand of fuckin... Vitamins or some shit,I don't know. It's got nothing to do with Microsoft, it's not automatically the worst thing in existence, it's just that Microsoft CONSISTENTLY does this kind of garbage, and it's one of those things that isn't overtly even a bad thing, you just have to look a bit.

So in short, I agree it is(was?) a useful tool, I don't agree that everyone is rabidly anti-microsoft, any more than anyone's rabidly anti-get-punched-in-the-taint.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are saying that you need to use there product to have a healthy PC. How on Earth is a search engine related at all to PC health. People are not idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

A lot of malware takes over your default search engine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Freeing up memory and eliminating unused apps and files" sounds like the kind of bullshit app we have on Android already. Why bring that to PC.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We had those bullshit apps on PC before Android was a glimmer in its Mama's eye. Why is Microsoft pushing that crapware?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

To make Bing the default search engine lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Why is Microsoft pushing that crapware?

It's their own crapware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never thought I would say this but Microsoft may be doing you a favor there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Because the standard search Google has deteriorated so much.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seems like we get new windows enshittification news every week now. They are hard at work, huh?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My laptop just updated (windows 11) and they now put bullcrap tips, weather, and stocks cards on the lock screen if you want to use the daily landscape images.

Love the landscape images, but those cards are now not optional. Fucking moronic and I need to just get off windows entirely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Go to the widgets program and you will see that those cards have 3 dots in the upper right corner that will allow you to hide or customize the widget.

EDIT: Never mind. I came back later and a MLB widget was on the lock screen which I certainly didn't authorize.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe this will sound unrelated but have you seen a PC infected with tons of malware?

The web browsers tend to be the most affected apps by malware and if the user doesn't want to reinstall, forcing the web browser to change the default search engine helps a lot, because it is literally impossible to do that manually when the PC is full of shit.

Other than that, yeah, Microsoft doing anti-consumer things, as always.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

forcing the web browser to change the default search engine helps a lot

How does changing your browser's default search engine (from another legitimate search engine) help get rid of malware?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

It doesn't. If a PC is so infected you can't change simple settings like search engine, it's time to reformat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Been a while since I experienced malware, but they typically forcibly change your browser's default search engine to a shady one with more malware, even after you try to change it to something else. Even for somewhat tech savvy users, this can be somewhat difficult to overcome.

Sounds like Microsoft is somehow overriding this with Bing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I highly doubt that personally. I'd bet money it wouldn't do this with malware just with people who have a clean system and use a different search engine.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a little surprised they let you change it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

About once a month, Edge pops up a message telling me that the search engine was "accidentally" changed from Bing to whatever I chose (e.g. DuckDuckGo). It leaves me no option but to restore Bing, and then manually change it back to what I wanted. If Edge weren't preinstalled I'd get rid of it, but I don't need two Chromium browsers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

I just had a big windows update and it asked part way through if I wanted to follow it's suggestions, I said no and it carried on.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago

They went full malware.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So tired of companies telling me they know what I want more than I do. It's all over the place in big ways like this and smaller annoyance ways too. My work mac just did a security update and it decided to change my desktop background

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everything that isn't Free Software will become abusive eventually. It boils down to the simple fact that you can only trust your property, that you control.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Windows is not free software though, so it's even worse

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