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Trump tantrumed and even quit a debate with Joe Biden in 2020, but now he's even more emotionally volatile

Donald Trump has tried to taunt President Joe Biden by claiming he's ready for a presidential debate "anytime, anywhere." The gambit left him little choice but to immediately accept when the Biden campaign offered debate dates in June and September, and terms like not having an audience and allowing real journalists to moderate. But within mere hours it became clear that Trump and the rest of the GOP already regretted the decision.

Pretty quickly, Trump tried to change the terms of the debate, pretending that it will be held on Oct. 2 on Fox News. The Biden campaign swiftly rejected this lie, accusing Trump of "playing games," and pointing out that Trump frequently talks big but then ends up "pulling out at the last minute, or not showing up at all."

It's true, of course. Trump has a habit of promising that he'll do bold things and then backing out, whether it's his empty promises to testify at his various trials or his false claims he'll release policy proposals in a week or two. (It's been over a month of silence, for instance, since he promised he would release an abortion platform in "14 days.") In 2020, still burned by his terrible first debate with Biden, Trump refused to show up at the second and held an ego-flattering rally instead.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Aren't they wearing diapers in solidarity with Ronald McDonald?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As much as I want to watch him fail in a debate, I feel like the MAGA group will double down, and just love him even more.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

It's not the maga group Biden needs to convince. Doubling down when they're already all in doesn't mean much.

He's trying to win an election so it's the various "I don't want to vote for Biden so I'll vote for trump or not vote" in swing states people he needs to be moving. To those people, Trump trying to go on an unhinged Twitter tirade at a debate could be persuasive. At least that's what a lot of Dems, and according to this GOP, think is going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Doesnt really matter how bad he gets, his magats are still gonna worship him

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I am really hoping a solid heat wave this summer takes down the presidential ticket.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Good god. Both of them? What a glorious thought... but what a shitshow that would follow.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I mean are they though?

Recent NYT poll had Trump leading in the several battleground states and let's fucking face it, the American voting populace is dumb AF.

A bad performance from Trump I don't think will do much of anything because Americans are just too stupid to remember or care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Has the election campaign started off yet though?

Not saying you're wrong btw :-p

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

The article makes a pretty convincing argument that the right wing spin sphere is already out in full force trying to downplay the debates.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

NYT is carrying enough water for Trump they may as well be an aqua duct. Mean the polls may be accurate but it's hard to believe much of what they put out between Biden and Trump. I'm sure I could read the methods but I rarely get to read NYT due to paywall.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I encourage everyone to take a look at Fox News's front page when political stories like this hit.

The debate's basically not there, other than the occasional opinion piece about how CNN is too biased to have a fair moderator. Yesterday there was an article where some Trump stooge was saying the debate conditions were designed to make it impossible for Trunk to win.

People who already support Trump get their media from places that will make his skipping this debate into a masterful gambit and a great victory. He won't lose votes over this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Of course he won't lose votes over this. The guy is a deplorable menace and anyone who still supports him is a lost cause as a human being.

I remember the past debates where trump made a fool of himself like he usually does and the next day, conservative opinion stations declared that trump won the debate for absolutely no reason instead of telling the truth.

The conservative propaganda machine has done immense damage to this country and they're still attacking it on a daily basis without anyone stopping them. Nothing will get better until the misinformation machine is stopped and Americans start getting factual news again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Same . . . ?

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