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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Not to piss in the lemonade, but some places still have the divine right of kings.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I met a traveller from an antique land,

Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone

Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,

Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,

And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,

Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;

And on the pedestal, these words appear:

My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Shelley’s Poetry and Prose (1977)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I've only read two books of Le Guin's, and they were both memorable:

The second one is more relevant to this meme.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely 100% run (don't walk!) and get The Left Hand of Darkness. It is easily one of the best sci-fi/fantasy books I have ever read.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Kings had nothing on capitalism. You could overthrow a king.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

thanks for sharing. I've been feeling pretty hopeless lately and this helped me today

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember, it took the black death and like 1/2 the population dying to bring about this change

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean the black death was like 450 years before the French revolution... I think it just took some angry French people for change

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If anything I think our societal problem is that everyone remembers what happened to Robespierre.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to chill around here. I'm all about uplifting peeps!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I agree with the sentiment and also wonder if she's still ferociously pro-copyright?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Divine right of kings simply morphed into capitalism. We didn't get rid of jack shit, and we never will.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Feudalism is entirely different from Capitalism, which is entirely different from Socialism. Class dynamics have changed, and will change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Feudalism is entirely different from Capitalism

Not really, no. Even though feudalism doesn't consider greed and resource hoarding inherently virtuous like capitalism does, both are at their core about the few rich and powerful exploiting and abusing the many poor and powerless through ownership of the necessities for life and a greater capacity for violence.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Both are class societies, yes. Both are fundamentally different relations of classes.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Capitalism is like Fuedalism in a trenchcoat

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I agree These systems both emerged from inherent humanity, not conspiracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"inherent humanity" - what a magical term. you might have a magical worldview! which means you won't even recognize this as an insult, which is sad, but a little funny.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

I can recognise nonsense when I see it, and viewpoints based on assumptions rather than evidence.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That would make sense for capitalism, if humanity didn't have to have its permanent, essential characteristics beaten, traumatised and groomed out of them with land seizures, branding, whipping, workhouses, schools, prisons, debtors prisons, being forced to sell their children, slavery and the threat of homelessness and starvation for hundreds of years.

People didn't just accept either of those two systems and there's nothing remotely inherent about them. They were both forced on people through violence or the threat of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

.They were both forced on people through violence or the threat of it.

And so is revealed the violence inherent to the system.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One of the greatest sci-fi authors.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One of the greatest fantasy authors

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
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