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[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Two cheeks on the same ass.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

That depends entirely on who we vote for in the primaries.

See: Zohran Mamdani for an example

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

not really just that, as the system resists when actual socialists get into significant power in capitalist institutions.

weve been there, done that. i assure you they will be doing their best to stop or coopt him, if they aint already.

the bright side is you just got an opportunity to actually really improve things materially, hes a good sign. this will depend more on his supporters than himself though, and i don't think the us public is just about ready to actually really materially support a socialist dissident in power.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Democratic party is terrified of that dude. Primary all of them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

100%. There are primaries all the time. The only difference with Zohran is we showed up.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair, Mamdani is facing massive backlash from the Dem establishment.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's the thing; most democrat politicians hate him nearly as much as the republican ones do, as they're more similar to one another than either is to him. There are a few exceptions, but we're going to need people aligned with Mamdani to be the norm rather than the exception if we want the democratic party to become a real force for good.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago (14 children)

I doubt it's possible for the DNC to be a force for good, better to have a new party entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Better in a vacuum, yes, but as /u/disguy_[email protected] pointed out, a huge amount of voters pay absolutely no attention, and just vote for whatever color they've always voted for. Hell, a bunch of people searched "Did Joe Biden drop out?" on election day, because they paid so little attention that they didn't even know about Harris. That's an extreme example, sure, but it's just not a realistic expectation to think people will really think hard about a 3rd party, especially when it won't get a proportionate amount of attention even if it got a huge amount of support, thanks to the billionaire-backed media.

If we don't get someone into one of the 2 established parties, we're crippling ourselves, likely to the point of immediate failure. It would be significantly more viable to change one of the parties by flooding it with new socialist politicians than it would be to build up a new platform based on socialism from the start.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

That doesn’t matter at all. He won the primary with a grassroots campaign, so he doesn’t need their funding. Being in the blue/Working Families column will win the know-nothing vote in NYC.

The key is for us to seek out the progressive on the primary ballot and vote. We shouldn’t be rewarding the candidates that have the financial means to find us in our living rooms. Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's less about funding, and more about the fuckery they can do by making Cuomo run as an independent. Electoralism will never be the permanent answer, revolution is still necessary, but Mamdani is still good for now.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

Careful you're going to make Godric very angry and he will have to be the adult in the room

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago

Bombs vs bombs with rainbow flags.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The rest of us standing there just looking at them

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

It's June, so the democrat cop should have a pride pin.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah. But also a quick test to see how far gone American society is: if the Dems get elected it means that, at least for the sake of optics and spin, morals play some sort of role still.

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