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I know most people that were on reddit at the time are fully aware of this and won't be surprised but don't dismiss the findings out of hand. It's important that studies are being conducted and the fact that the finding match our lived experience is still noteworthy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Weak, all of them

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you ever want to observe or engage (be ready for the pile-up) with these same folks, r/ShitPoliticsSays contains the exact same user-base of extremists. These are dyed-in-the-wool folks because they use this as a launching-point for brigading other subs comment threads. Lots of Canadian righties there, too. The only credit I'll give is unlike r/conservative that they never censored so you could pretty much discuss and test argumentative points to your heart's content.

Just read the thread covering this very article about T_D lol

Of course I still think a sizable chunk of these folks operate in discord channels and astroturfed Sanders subs (especially the 2020 election), ChapoTrapHouse, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I would be extremely interested if things changed after the sub went private.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

To add on to the people pointing out that science is data:

Yes, it is incredibly obvious that the turmp fanclub subreddit would radicalize people to become white nationalists.

What is not obvious is that this is happening everywhere. And, if you get a hold of one of the "leaked" white supremacist recruiting guides from the 80s and 90s, that is by design.

South Park Libertarians and all but it really is telling how many people, to this day, insist that the f-slur for gay people is really "Oh, we took that back. it means obnoxious motorcycle drivers". Let alone statements like "har har, you are so butthurt" that (regardless of what urban dictionary says) are on the same level as "ha ha, you are gay"

We see it every day. And it makes communities hostile. And if you call it out, you get driven out. Which means there are fewer people around to say "... what the fuck? How can we think this is acceptable?". And then someone whose entire vocabulary is "lolzors go woke go broke pepe pepe" gets rightfully made fun of elsewhere and now they are a victim and all those "for the lolz" become their identity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, it is incredibly obvious that the turmp fanclub subreddit would radicalize people to become white nationalists.

They're polarizing and definitely hateful.

But as the volume got cranked higher and higher, I think it encouraged more silent disgust than popular approval.

You just couldn't see it under all the pro-Trump spam.

And then someone whose entire vocabulary is “lolzors go woke go broke pepe pepe” gets rightfully made fun of elsewhere and now they are a victim and all those “for the lolz” become their identity.

The online Shoot And Cry strategy. Always be the victim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

the f-slur can't be reclaimed for me, personally, I'm happy for those who do reclaim it but its just too painful as it's what I got called when I was badly hurt and was worried I would die as a 12 year old.

However, those who do reclaim it then use it around me, which just makes me think about what happened - involuntarily - and ruins my day (or part of it).

It's also tricky being a bi man in a het relationship in this regard, as if someone knows that it's hard to overcome their feelings that due to my partners existence, I now no longer have a say in these matters.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My story from the donald is I got banned for saying, "Donald will have more than 2 terms." Or something like that.

Now Republicans don't think they should ever lose elections.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yes, that's why nazi digg kept them around.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

This won't make Spez any more uncomfortable when he wants to sleep at night. According to him, that subreddit was "valuable discussion".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

One cannot be an active thedonald user without already being a white nationalist.

Any dissent gets an instant permaban.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Any dissent gets an instant permaban.

So just like r/conservative? I only commented there once and was instantly permabanned. It was a while ago. Deinately before Trump was president, maybe 2015. Maybe earlier.

I kinda watched the political climate change drastically since 2015. Statring form Trumps presidency to spreading all over America, Europe and the world. And I wonder where this came from in such masses. Russian efforts and paid propagandists? They can't be THAT powerful, can they? It is insane and it spreads everywhere. Into every corner of the world. I don't understand it. People seem to want authoritarian leadership. Have they all lost their minds?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not defending Russia, the us wrote the book on election interference. To act like it's not possible now is insane. American exceptionalism is the biggest hoax. The GOP is now banking on the us letting Putin win. They've sold us down the river with fanciful delusion that they will get to rule the ashes and install their Christo-fascist bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Literally everyone on Reddit could see this except spez, who is a greedy little pigboy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Extremists are engagement.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I really wonder if the nouveau rich tech startup boys look around and realize that their greed is directly responsible for the 2016 election and by extension, the state of US domestic politics today, and feel even a tiny bit of guilt over it.

Probably not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

But that's not true I've heard it straight from the tech-bros mouth. They build these technologies to help us, the little people. To spread peace and love and build deeper connections with the people that we love. I'm sure that they feel pain and guilt that they have to deposit those large checks into their bank accounts. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I don't think that's how they're wired. If anything, they'd be excited to learn they're a couple of million dollars of AI astroturfing from being able to choose the president.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh he could see it too and didn't care because he's a self proclaimed libertarian.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What's a right wing libertarian other than a fascist so selfish they aren't concerned or swayed by ideas of nationalism or "heritage". But they'll happily enable and march with the ones who are. When their self interest aligns. They just want to be the ones on top.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They’re mostly just conservatives who like drugs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Be fair. They're also conservatives who are more open about not wanting the age of consent to be a thing. Which also explains the sub spez used to moderate.

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