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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Consistency and parenthood.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

OK, so what you want to do is stay awake for atleast 20 hours, sleep for like 5 hours then wake up, do this for a while then pick a time to go to bed, now you gotta drink some sleepy time tea, set a few alarms and fall asleep, you should sleep for about 8 hours, and wake up refreshed, now repeat this every night until you don't need the tea.

You gotta overload your circadian rhythm to reset it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Oh, oh, I know this one! Have a baby. Done.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I started leaning into my abnormal circadian rhythm and my mental and physical health was boosted almost instantly

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Get a herding dog... seriously mine keeps me on this sleep schedule. She tells me when to go to bed and is my alarm clock in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I know this is WhitePeopleTwitter, and not a direct ask; but the easiest way is to tackle it from the wake-up time, rather than forcing yourself to try and fall asleep at 10pm.

Pick a day with few responsibilities, (e.g. Saturday ) that way you won’t be too negatively impacted if you don’t get enough sleep. Set MULTIPLE alarms to 6am to force you out of bed; proceed with your day as normal, minimise screen time and bright lights after 9pm, and go to bed at 10pm.

Make sure you keep waking up at 6 am and don’t nap/go back to sleep; brute force your body to adapt. It should work as quickly as in 72hrs.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Work out every day

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

8 hour day doing physical labor will do it.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

an alarm clock and some self control

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Oh gee thanks why didn't I think of that

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

ITT people find reasons it's not their fault they don't sleep at night when statistically speaking most of them actually just need to find the self control to turn off the fucking screens at night and let your body find its natural rhythm.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yoooooo i had a nice long extended hospital stay that inadvertently did just this.

My natural waking hours are 10am - 3am.

every cunt and his dog still ragged my arse for not adhering to the dogma though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s literally genetic.

I would explain the evolutionary pressures that resulted in this adaptation and the societal factors that has resulted in completely ignoring this segment of humanity.

But the fact that you feel so fucking cute and intelligent posting from your little high horse while being completely wrong is so goddamn funny and you probably don’t have the capability to understand anyway.

In conclusion, maybe the person with a room temperature IQ shouldn’t be making false accusations at people that already follow your useless advice?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Skip one night of sleep, go to bed at your target hour, pref an hour or two before.

wake up at 4 - 6 am

Go to bed at 9, fall asleep at 10

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I go through this at the beginning of every school year. All it really takes is about two weeks of being forced to wake up at 6am.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It sounds fake, but it might genuinely be your genes. Scientifically the natural tendency to sleep at specific time is called your chronotype and it's semi-genetic (it also changes with age and possibly few other factors). Not only that, it also affects your alertness: morning people usually have the highest alertness just after waking up and it gradually declines throughout the day, while evening people usually wake up with very low mental functions, but then their alertness slowly rises and hits its' peak around 5-6PM.

So if you ever wondered how it's possible that you always wake up feeling like shit, while others talk about how they're so full of energy in the morning. That's how. They're literally built different.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I wonder if it's only the jeans, or if environmental factors also play a significant role and how big that role is relative to the role of genetics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Could you point me in the direction of some source/further reading? I would love to have something substantive to share next time I get shamed for my lifelong struggle to become a morning person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Work on a mine site and get used to waking up at 4:30 for a 5:30 start to the work day. Then sleep in.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How to become a morning person according to this thread:

  • Stop using drugs.

  • Use drugs to go to sleep.

  • Go to bed at 10.

  • Go to bed at 10 and fail to fall asleep.

  • Just wake up at 6.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I've tried all of those suggestions, they worked but also didn't. Now my sleep schedule is so borked.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's a suppository.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Cocaine might do it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The key is to master dissociation.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Step 1, wake up at 6. Step 2, go to bed at 10. Step 3, repeat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Adjust the times at which you eat, and make sure those times are consistent. Sleeping habits will follow way more easily if you adjust eating times along with them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Have you tried going to sleep at 10 and waking up at 6? It sounds obvious, but you'd be amazed at how many people never do the obvious thing. Like forgetting to plug in a computer and wondering why it doesn't come on when the power button is pressed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yes. Spent a month in a ward with a fixed regiment. Never got used to it, and my sleep cycles were all over the place. By the end of the month I was starving because I was missing so many meals, and it was overall torturous.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

It helps to establish a routine for going to bed. For example, set a nightly reminder on your phone 15-30 minutes before bedtime that it's time to wind things down. Don't have anything caffeinated after 5 pm or so.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How it works for me:

Go to bed at 10PM.
Fail to fall asleep until 1AM.
Wake up at 4AM because now I have to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

This is the correct answer.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I just use an NFC tag.

Now I can't turn off my alarm unless I get up, leave my bedroom, and go to my living room to scan the NFC tag on my wall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I've tried both making puzzles for myself (like locking alarm off in a PC case) and math challenges. Both of those failed and were only inducing somnambulism in me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it requires doing it over and over again and accepting that it's gonna make you feel kinda shitty. I'm at my best by 11am. When I used to work overnight til 5am, 11am was when I woke up. When I worked bars 5-close, 11am. Now that I work a 9-5, I'm physically there at 9, but I'm useless til 11am. When I fall asleep has changed as my schedule did, for each of those schedules I was in bed at 6am, 4am and midnight respectively. But when the machinery came online has never changed: 11am.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I had an evening job from 2014 to 2016, so my lunch would be at about 22:00, and I still get hungry around that time as if my body's expecting a meal.

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